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Date:	Wed, 5 Jun 2013 08:59:06 -0400
From:	"J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@...ldses.org>
To:	Jeff Layton <jlayton@...hat.com>
Cc:	viro@...iv.linux.org.uk, matthew@....cx, dhowells@...hat.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 07/11] locks: only pull entries off of blocked_list
 when they are really unblocked

On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 08:38:59AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Jun 2013 08:24:32 -0400
> "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@...ldses.org> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jun 05, 2013 at 07:38:22AM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 17:58:39 -0400
> > > "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@...ldses.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 11:07:30PM -0400, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > > > > Currently, when there is a lot of lock contention the kernel spends an
> > > > > inordinate amount of time taking blocked locks off of the global
> > > > > blocked_list and then putting them right back on again. When all of this
> > > > > code was protected by a single lock, then it didn't matter much, but now
> > > > > it means a lot of file_lock_lock thrashing.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Optimize this a bit by deferring the removal from the blocked_list until
> > > > > we're either applying or cancelling the lock. By doing this, and using a
> > > > > lockless list_empty check, we can avoid taking the file_lock_lock in
> > > > > many cases.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Because the fl_link check is lockless, we must ensure that only the task
> > > > > that "owns" the request manipulates the fl_link. Also, with this change,
> > > > > it's possible that we'll see an entry on the blocked_list that has a
> > > > > NULL fl_next pointer. In that event, just ignore it and continue walking
> > > > > the list.
> > > > 
> > > > OK, that sounds safe as in it shouldn't crash, but does the deadlock
> > > > detection still work, or can it miss loops?
> > > > 
> > > > Those locks that are temporarily NULL would previously not have been on
> > > > the list at all, OK, but...  I'm having trouble reasoning about how this
> > > > works now.
> > > > 
> > > > Previously a single lock was held interrupted across
> > > > posix_locks_deadlock and locks_insert_block() which guaranteed we
> > > > shouldn't be adding a loop, is that still true?
> > > > 
> > > > --b.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I had thought it was when I originally looked at this, but now that I
> > > consider it again I think you may be correct and that there are possible
> > > races here. Since we might end up reblocking behind a different lock
> > > without taking the global spinlock we could flip to blocking behind a
> > > different lock such that a loop is created if you had a complex (>2)
> > > chain of locks.
> > > 
> > > I think I'm going to have to drop this approach and instead make it so
> > > that the deadlock detection and insertion into the global blocker
> > > list/hash are atomic.
> > 
> > Right.  Once you drop the lock you can no longer be sure that what you
> > learned about the file-lock graph stays true.
> > 
> > > Ditto for locks_wake_up_blocks on posix locks and
> > > taking the entries off the list/hash.
> > 
> > Here I'm not sure what you mean.
> > 
> 
> Basically, I mean that rather than setting the fl_next pointer to NULL
> while holding only the inode lock and then ignoring those locks in the
> deadlock detection code, we should additionally take the global lock in
> locks_wake_up_blocks too and take the blocked locks off the global list
> and the i_flock list at the same time.

OK, thanks, got it.  I have a hard time thinking about that.... But yes
it bothers me that the deadlock detection code could see an out-of-date
value of fl_next, and I can't convince myself that this wouldn't result
in false positives or false negatives.

> That actually might not be completely necessary, but it'll make the
> logic clearer and easier to understand and probably won't hurt
> performance too much. Again, I'll need to do some perf testing to be
> sure.

OK!

--b.
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