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Date:	Thu, 6 Jun 2013 00:26:35 +0100
From:	"luke.leighton" <luke.leighton@...il.com>
To:	"jonsmirl@...il.com" <jonsmirl@...il.com>
Cc:	Linux on small ARM machines <arm-netbook@...ts.phcomp.co.uk>,
	devicetree-discuss <devicetree-discuss@...abs.org>,
	Stephen Warren <swarren@...dotorg.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	debian-arm@...ts.debian.org,
	ARM Linux Mailing List <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	debian-kernel@...ts.debian.org
Subject: Re: [Arm-netbook] getting allwinner SoC support upstream (was Re:
 Uploading linux (3.9.4-1))

On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 12:07 AM, jonsmirl@...il.com <jonsmirl@...il.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 6:47 PM, luke.leighton <luke.leighton@...il.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:59 PM, Henrik Nordström
>> <henrik@...riknordstrom.net> wrote:
>>
>>>>  .... and then there's the boot0 and boot1 loaders, these *do* have
>>
>>> no, these are not tiny. boot0 is 24KB to fit the initial embedded SRAM
>>> (not cache), but boot1 is on pair with u-boot in size and runs from
>>> DRAM.
>>
>>  btw, please listen to henrik: he knows what he's talking about, as
>> you can see :)   henrik, thank you for correcting my technical
>> misunderstandings, i'll try to remember them and not propagate
>> incorrect stuff.
>
> This is not about the fex syntax or uboot. The root problem is needing
> two sets of binding for every device driver in the kernel. Pick a
> random driver like gpio-pca953x.c and look at the source. In that file
> there are #ifdef CONFIG_OF_ sections. Those sections are directly
> reading the FDT binary via calls like of_get_property(node,
> "linux,gpio-base", &size);. If fex is added to the kernel every driver
> driver will now need both a #ifdef CONFIG_OF_ section and also a
> #ifdef CONFIG_FEX_ section. Doing that is just crazy.

 yes.  which is why they haven't done it.

> Is Allwinner
> going to add fex support to every single device driver in the kernel?

 no john - they've only added it to the multiplexed sections of the
drivers which they themselves have written.  such as
drivers/usb/sun{N}i_usb/*.[ch], drivers/block/nand/sun{N}_i,
arch/arm/mach-sun{N}i and so on.

even the touchscreen driver that they wrote, that's got nothing to do
with any other code in the touchscreen linux kernel source tree: it's
more of a "meta-"driver which even has the name of the linux kernel
module that needs to be loaded and what I2C address, GPIO options etc.
to pass in [normally done as modprobe options in userspace].

 to be honest, there are better people to fully answer this question
(alejandro and henrik are two that spring to mind) but you're
definitely off-base, jon.  the script.fex system deals with the pinmux
issue in a very neat way that:

  a) has very little impact on the rest of the kernel tree [citation
needed!  i'm saying that: could someone please confirm if it's true]

  b) the linux kernel developers could, instead of criticising it,
actually learn a great deal from.

l.
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