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Date:	Thu, 11 Jul 2013 16:26:40 +0300
From:	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>
To:	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>
CC:	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...stprotocols.net>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>, Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@...gle.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V4 20/21] perf: make events stream always parsable

On 05/07/13 16:24, Namhyung Kim wrote:
> Hi Adrian,
> 
> On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 10:20 PM, Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com> wrote:
>> The event stream is not always parsable because the format of a sample
>> is dependent on the sample_type of the selected event.  When there
>> is more than one selected event and the sample_types are not the
>> same then parsing becomes problematic.  A sample can be matched to its
>> selected event using the ID that is allocated when the event is opened.
>> Unfortunately, to get the ID from the sample means first parsing it.
>>
>> This patch adds a new sample format bit PERF_SAMPLE_IDENTIFER that puts
>> the ID at a fixed position so that the ID can be retrieved without
>> parsing the sample.  For sample events, that is the first position
>> immediately after the header.  For non-sample events, that is the last
>> position.
> 
> Why do we have to keep another ID again?

It is a different place for the ID not another ID.

> If all we need is the sample_type, why not just saving it directly?

We really want to associate the event with the attribute so the ID is
needed, not just the sample type.

> 
> And for the implementation, I guess it'll break old perf tools
> by parsing invalid position of data. IOW if it's recorded on a newer
> kernel/tool and then reported on an older perf tool (maybe on a
> different machine).  In this case the old tool cannot recognize the
> PERF_SAMPLE_IDENTIFIER and try to parse it as a different
> type of data, right?

I have changed the code so that PERF_SAMPLE_IDENTIFIER is only used for
non-matching sample types.  Since in those cases the data was anyway not
parsable, the scenario you outline cannot happen.

> 
> So I suggest put the data at the end of sample data like other new
> sample types added.  Older tools would simply ignore that part, and
> newer tools can access it directly by checking event.header.size
> and/or evsel->sample_size.

The ID will be on the end of non-sample (e.g. mmap, comm, task) events, so
if tools are parsing those events backwards (as perf tools does) then they
will anyway fail if they are not expecting PERF_SAMPLE_IDENTIFIER.  However
that scenario only happens when the data is anyway not parsable as I
mentioned above.

> 
> Thanks,
> Namhyung
> 
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>
>> ---
>>  include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h |  3 ++-
>>  kernel/events/core.c            | 11 ++++++++++-
>>  2 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h b/include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h
>> index 0b1df41..6bb217e 100644
>> --- a/include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h
>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/perf_event.h
>> @@ -134,8 +134,9 @@ enum perf_event_sample_format {
>>         PERF_SAMPLE_STACK_USER                  = 1U << 13,
>>         PERF_SAMPLE_WEIGHT                      = 1U << 14,
>>         PERF_SAMPLE_DATA_SRC                    = 1U << 15,
>> +       PERF_SAMPLE_IDENTIFIER                  = 1U << 16,
>>
>> -       PERF_SAMPLE_MAX = 1U << 16,             /* non-ABI */
>> +       PERF_SAMPLE_MAX = 1U << 17,             /* non-ABI */
>>  };
>>
>>  /*
>> diff --git a/kernel/events/core.c b/kernel/events/core.c
>> index 1db3af9..ca532f2 100644
>> --- a/kernel/events/core.c
>> +++ b/kernel/events/core.c
>> @@ -1203,6 +1203,9 @@ static void perf_event__id_header_size(struct perf_event *event)
>>         if (sample_type & PERF_SAMPLE_TIME)
>>                 size += sizeof(data->time);
>>
>> +       if (sample_type & PERF_SAMPLE_IDENTIFIER)
>> +               size += sizeof(data->id);
>> +
>>         if (sample_type & PERF_SAMPLE_ID)
>>                 size += sizeof(data->id);
>>
>> @@ -4229,7 +4232,7 @@ static void __perf_event_header__init_id(struct perf_event_header *header,
>>         if (sample_type & PERF_SAMPLE_TIME)
>>                 data->time = perf_clock();
>>
>> -       if (sample_type & PERF_SAMPLE_ID)
>> +       if (sample_type & (PERF_SAMPLE_ID | PERF_SAMPLE_IDENTIFIER))
>>                 data->id = primary_event_id(event);
>>
>>         if (sample_type & PERF_SAMPLE_STREAM_ID)
>> @@ -4268,6 +4271,9 @@ static void __perf_event__output_id_sample(struct perf_output_handle *handle,
>>
>>         if (sample_type & PERF_SAMPLE_CPU)
>>                 perf_output_put(handle, data->cpu_entry);
>> +
>> +       if (sample_type & PERF_SAMPLE_IDENTIFIER)
>> +               perf_output_put(handle, data->id);
>>  }
>>
>>  void perf_event__output_id_sample(struct perf_event *event,
>> @@ -4380,6 +4386,9 @@ void perf_output_sample(struct perf_output_handle *handle,
>>
>>         perf_output_put(handle, *header);
>>
>> +       if (sample_type & PERF_SAMPLE_IDENTIFIER)
>> +               perf_output_put(handle, data->id);
>> +
>>         if (sample_type & PERF_SAMPLE_IP)
>>                 perf_output_put(handle, data->ip);
>>
>> --
>> 1.7.11.7
>>
> 
> 

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