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Date:	Thu, 11 Jul 2013 09:31:43 -0700
From:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...ux.intel.com>
To:	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>
CC:	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@...achi.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Jason Baron <jbaron@...hat.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bpetkov@...e.de>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH 1/2 v2] x86: introduce int3-based instruction patching

On 07/11/2013 03:09 AM, Jiri Kosina wrote:
>>
>> I'm wondering if it would be easier/more general to just return to the
>> instruction.  The "more general" bit would allow this to be used for
>> other things, like alternatives, 
> 
> As Boris already pointed out, this is not really that interesting, as it's 
> being done through text_poke_early(), which is rather a different story 
> anyway.
> 
>> and perhaps eventually dynamic call patching.
> 
> Umm ... could you please elaborate either what exactly do you mean by 
> that, or why it can't be used currently as-is?

Dynamic call patching would be changing a CALL instruction *emitted by
the compiler* (and therefore lacking any metadata annotation) from one
target function to another.  Because it lacks metadata annotations, we
can't do this as a "big bang" (all at the same time) but rather would
have to do it on demand (the original CALL would point to a "patch me"
routine.)  This means a lot of patching cycles; stop_machine() is a
total nonstarter, even IPIs might be too expensive.

There is an alternative, which is postprocessing the executable to
generate metadata, but that has its own trickiness.

>> Returning to the instruction will, in effect, be a busy-wait for the 
>> faulted CPU until the patch is complete; more or less what stop_machine 
>> would do, but only for a CPU which actually strays into the affected 
>> region.
> 
> To be honest, I fail to see a clear advantage ... we don't avoid any extra 
> IPI by it, and wrt. "correctness", the end result is the same.
> 

The current code assumes that one of the two code sequences is a NOP,
and therefore that jumping over the region is legal.  This does not
allow for transitioning one active code sequence to another.

	-hpa

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