linux-kernel - Re: [tip:perf/core] perf tools: Make Power7 events available for perf

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date:	Tue, 23 Jul 2013 15:56:09 +1000
From:	Michael Ellerman <michael@...erman.id.au>
To:	Vince Weaver <vince@...ter.net>
Cc:	mingo@...nel.org, hpa@...or.com, paulus@...ba.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, acme@...hat.com,
	runzhen@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, runzhew@...mson.edu,
	xiaoguangrong@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, sukadev@...ux.vnet.ibm.com,
	tglx@...utronix.de, linux-tip-commits@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [tip:perf/core] perf tools: Make Power7 events available for
 perf

On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 01:33 -0400, Vince Weaver wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Jul 2013, tip-bot for Runzhen Wang wrote:
> 
> > perf tools: Make Power7 events available for perf
> > 
> > This patch makes all the POWER7 events available in sysfs.  So we can
> > instead specify these as:
> > 
> > $ size arch/powerpc/perf/power7-pmu.o
> >    text          data     bss     dec     hex filename
> >    3073          2720       0    5793    16a1 arch/powerpc/perf/power7-pmu.o
> > 
> > and after the patch is applied, it is:
> > 
> > $ size arch/powerpc/perf/power7-pmu.o
> >    text          data     bss     dec     hex filename
> >   15950         31112       0   47062    b7d6 arch/powerpc/perf/power7-pmu.o
> 
> 
> so we're really going down this road?

_We_ are going down this road, at least until there is a better
solution. You'll notice I haven't merged any events for power8.

> If x86 follows this precedent we're going to end up with 300k+ of
> event names in the kernel.  And as a reminder, perf_event cannot
> be disabled on x86, nor can it be compiled as a module.  So that would
> be 300k of event names in every kernel for everyone, even those not using 
> perf.

x86 can do what it wants. I don't think anyone in x86 land has proposed
putting all the events in the kernel, so you can stop worrying about
your 300k of memory.


I thought it was pretty clear from the last thread that folks agreed the
event _lists_ should be in userspace. The discovery of the PMUs should
be done in the kernel, and that should be communicated to userspace via
something in sys.

What it needs now is someone with some free time to actually code it up.
Right now that's not me.

cheers


--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/