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Date:	Mon, 12 Aug 2013 22:39:22 -0400
From:	Dave Jones <davej@...hat.com>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
Cc:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@...achi.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] tracing: final fixes for events and some

On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 08:13:25PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
 > > > I see that some of the fixes here fix issues that your earlier 
 > > > post-rc1 rounds of non-regression fixes introduced to begin with. 
 > > > That's really not a good pattern either IMO.
 > > 
 > > Not really. The earlier fixes closed some of the holes but were not good 
 > > enough. They didn't cause more regressions, but the method use to fix 
 > > the regressions it was trying to solve wasn't going to work when we saw 
 > > the extent of the regressions that had to be fixed. Oleg came up with a 
 > > better method, which meant that we had to undo the original fix, for a 
 > > even better fix.
 > 
 > My point is that _neither_ should have gone in after the merge window. 
 > -rc1 and onwards are to fix regressions caused in the merge window, full 
 > stop. Yet there was a steady stream of tracing changes in kernel/ that at 
 > best fixed ancient bugs that are only root triggerable and which nobody 
 > actually triggered all that much. Followed by fixes to the fixes.

I'm not sure why I got cc'd on this, but for my part, the perf/tracing related bugs
I've found recently may have been there for ages, but they were triggerable
as non-root users.

	Dave

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