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Date:	Thu, 26 Sep 2013 08:54:02 +0100
From:	Anton Altaparmakov <aia21@....ac.uk>
To:	Alexander Holler <holler@...oftware.de>
Cc:	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	STAGING SUBSYSTEM <devel@...verdev.osuosl.org>,
	Matthew Garrett <mjg59@...f.ucam.org>,
	Benjamin Valentin <benpicco@...at.fu-berlin.de>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] add exFAT driver

Hi,

On 25 Sep 2013, at 23:29, Alexander Holler <holler@...oftware.de> wrote:
> Am 26.09.2013 00:10, schrieb Greg Kroah-Hartman:
>> Please stick to technical discussions about the code on the kernel
>> mailing lists.  Legal discussions can be left up to the lawyers, of
>> which we are not.
> 
> Hmm, but I would like to know if someone has to fear getting owned by
> Microsoft if he would use that driver.
> 
> Giving the rumours about Linux companies having to pay Microsoft and
> giving the fact that all of those licencees seem to don't have to speak
> about what Microsoft claims patents for and for what they have to pay, I
> obviously think adding that driver to Linux and thus making exFAT more
> general accepted is a very bad idea.
> 
> Of course, I'm not a lawyer too, but as a responsible Linux developer, I
> should at least be able to warn other parities when they approach me and
> want to use exFAT. Doing such without the maybe necessary license might
> drive small companies into the ground because most of them are unable to
> even think about having the money needed to talk with Microsoft lawyers
> in front of a court.


Exactly.  That is all I was trying to do.  Warn people/companies not to use the driver because they may get sued for using it.  As the below Microsoft exFAT licensing page says at the bottom:

<quote>
Please note that open source or other publicly available implementations of exFAT do not include an IP license from Microsoft. For licensing information, please contact IPlicreq@...rosoft.com.
</quote>

Above is from bottom of:

	http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/IPLicensing/Programs/exFATFileSystem.aspx

Best regards,

	Anton
-- 
Anton Altaparmakov <aia21 at cam.ac.uk> (replace at with @)
Unix Support, Computing Service, University of Cambridge
J.J. Thomson Avenue, Cambridge, CB3 0RB, UK

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