lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:	Tue, 17 Dec 2013 15:42:14 +0100
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
To:	Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Alex Shi <alex.shi@...aro.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@...el.com>,
	H Peter Anvin <hpa@...or.com>, Linux-X86 <x86@...nel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] Fix ebizzy performance regression due to X86 TLB
 range flush v2


* Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de> wrote:

> [...]
>
> At that point it'll be time to look at profiles and see where we are 
> actually spending time because the possibilities of finding things 
> to fix through bisection will be exhausted.

Yeah.

One (heavy handed but effective) trick that can be used in such a 
situation is to just revert everything that is causing problems, and 
continue reverting until we get back to a v3.4 baseline performance.

Once such a 'clean' tree (or queue of patches) is achived, that can be 
used as a measurement base and the individual features can be 
re-applied again, one by one, with measurement and analysis becoming a 
lot easier.

> > Also it appears the Ebizzy numbers ought to be stable enough now 
> > to make the range-TLB-flush measurements more precise?
> 
> Right now, the tlbflush microbenchmark figures look awful on the 
> 8-core machine when the tlbflush shift patch and the schedule domain 
> fix are both applied.

I think that furthr strengthens the case for the 'clean base' approach 
I outlined above - but it's your call obviously ...

Thanks again for going through all this. Tracking multi-commit 
performance regressions across 1.5 years worth of commits is generally 
very hard. Does your testing effort comes from enterprise Linux QA 
testing, or did you ran into this problem accidentally?

Thanks,

	Ingo
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ