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Date:	Thu, 27 Feb 2014 13:30:52 +0100
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
To:	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>
Cc:	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...radead.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...stprotocols.net>,
	Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@...el.com>,
	Cody P Schafer <cody@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Corey Ashford <cjashfor@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Jean Pihet <jean.pihet@...aro.org>,
	Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@...gle.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL 00/12] perf/core improvements and fixes


* Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 12:46:58PM +0100, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > 
> > * Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...radead.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...stprotocols.net>
> > > 
> > > Hi Ingo,
> > > 
> > > 	Please consider pulling,
> > > 
> > > - Arnaldo
> > > 
> > > The following changes since commit 7e74efcf76c16f851df5c838c143c4a1865ea9fa:
> > > 
> > >   Merge tag 'perf-core-for-mingo' of git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/acme/linux into perf/core (2014-02-22 17:26:24 +0100)
> > > 
> > > are available in the git repository at:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/acme/linux tags/perf-core-for-mingo
> > > 
> > > for you to fetch changes up to 1029f9fedf87fa6f52096991588fa54ffd159584:
> > > 
> > >   perf symbols: Check compatible symtab type before loading dso (2014-02-24 16:25:01 -0300)
> > > 
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > perf/core improvements and fixes
> > > 
> > > . Add support for the new DWARF unwinder library in elfutils (Jiri Olsa)
> > > 
> > > . Fix build race in the generation of bison files (Jiri Olsa)
> > > 
> > > . Further streamline the feature detection display, trimming it a bit to
> > >   show just the libraries detected, using VF=1 gets a more verbose output,
> > >   showing the less interesting feature checks as well (Jiri Olsa).
> > > 
> > > . Check compatible symtab type before loading dso (Namhyung Kim)
> > > 
> > > . Check return value of filename__read_debuglink() (Stephane Eranian)
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>
> > > 
> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo (1):
> > >       perf tools: Warn the user about how to enable libunwind support
> > > 
> > > Jiri Olsa (9):
> > >       perf tests: Fix *.o make tests
> > >       perf tests: Add pmu-bison.o make test
> > >       perf tools: Fix bison OUTPUT directories dependency
> > >       perf tools: Factor features display code
> > >       perf tools: Add variable display for VF make output
> > >       perf tools: Add feature check for libdw dwarf unwind
> > >       perf tools: Add libdw DWARF post unwind support
> > >       perf tools: Setup default dwarf post unwinder
> > >       perf tests: Add NO_LIBDW_DWARF_UNWIND make test
> > > 
> > > Namhyung Kim (1):
> > >       perf symbols: Check compatible symtab type before loading dso
> > > 
> > > Stephane Eranian (1):
> > >       perf symbols: Check return value of filename__read_debuglink()
> > > 
> > >  tools/perf/Makefile.perf                           |  24 ++-
> > >  tools/perf/arch/x86/Makefile                       |   5 +
> > >  tools/perf/arch/x86/util/unwind-libdw.c            |  51 +++++
> > >  tools/perf/config/Makefile                         | 232 +++++++++++++++------
> > >  tools/perf/config/feature-checks/Makefile          |   6 +-
> > >  tools/perf/config/feature-checks/test-all.c        |   5 +
> > >  .../feature-checks/test-libdw-dwarf-unwind.c       |  13 ++
> > >  tools/perf/tests/make                              |  25 ++-
> > >  tools/perf/util/dso.c                              |   4 +-
> > >  tools/perf/util/symbol-elf.c                       |   2 +
> > >  tools/perf/util/symbol.c                           |  61 +++++-
> > >  tools/perf/util/unwind-libdw.c                     | 210 +++++++++++++++++++
> > >  tools/perf/util/unwind-libdw.h                     |  21 ++
> > >  13 files changed, 569 insertions(+), 90 deletions(-)
> > >  create mode 100644 tools/perf/arch/x86/util/unwind-libdw.c
> > >  create mode 100644 tools/perf/config/feature-checks/test-libdw-dwarf-unwind.c
> > >  create mode 100644 tools/perf/util/unwind-libdw.c
> > >  create mode 100644 tools/perf/util/unwind-libdw.h
> > 
> > Pulled, thanks a lot Arnaldo!
> > 
> > Btw., the build output looks weird now - on a system that used to pass 
> > all feature tests there's this output:
> > 
> >   BUILD:   Doing 'make -j12' parallel build
> > config/Makefile:288: No libdw DWARF unwind found, Please install 
> > elfutils-devel/libdw-dev >= 0.158 and/or set LIBDW_DIR
> > 
> > Auto-detecting system features:
> > ...                         dwarf: [ on  ]
> > ...                         glibc: [ on  ]
> > ...                          gtk2: [ on  ]
> > ...                      libaudit: [ on  ]
> > ...                        libbfd: [ on  ]
> > ...                        libelf: [ on  ]
> > ...                       libnuma: [ on  ]
> > ...                       libperl: [ on  ]
> > ...                     libpython: [ on  ]
> > ...                      libslang: [ on  ]
> > ...                     libunwind: [ on  ]
> > ...            libdw-dwarf-unwind: [ OFF ]
> > ...     DWARF post unwind library: libunwind
> > 
> > but:
> > 
> >    Package elfutils-devel-0.156-5.fc19.x86_64 already installed and latest version
> > 
> > Also, the information content of this line is unclear to me:
> > 
> > ...     DWARF post unwind library: libunwind
> > 
> > 
> > what does that line want to tell?
> 
> this tells what DWARF unwind library is compiled
> in.. 'libunwind' in this case

So my (stylistic) complaint is that it's really reading weird in a 
table generated with the following purpose:

      Auto-detecting system features:

Also, we already know that libunwind is present, because just in the 
line before it, it says:

    ...                     libunwind: [ on  ]

So it's doubly confusing. How about not displaying that line at all? 
Is there a strong reason to not keep 'OFF' messages on a single line?

> the other choice is 'libdw', which was not detected in your case 
> (and thats what the 1st message tells you)
> 
> we discussed with Arnaldo, that we would not display warnings for 
> missing features by default.. only tell that there are missing 
> features and display them for verbose (VF=1) output

That's probably a good plan. I'd suggest the following 'short log' for 
failures:

     # Auto-detecting system features: 2 libraries are missing. Try 'make VF=1' for a verbose list.

I.e. that way people can notice if the count goes up or down after an 
update. Also, that too should be a single line, so that it does not 
spam people.

Thanks,

	Ingo
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