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Date:	Fri, 2 May 2014 11:36:28 +0200
From:	Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>
To:	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>,
	KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@...gle.com>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@...gle.com>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>, Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>,
	Roman Gushchin <klamm@...dex-team.ru>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, linux-mm@...ck.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] memcg, mm: introduce lowlimit reclaim

On Wed 30-04-14 18:55:50, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2014 at 02:26:42PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > diff --git a/mm/memcontrol.c b/mm/memcontrol.c
> > index 19d620b3d69c..40e517630138 100644
> > --- a/mm/memcontrol.c
> > +++ b/mm/memcontrol.c
> > @@ -2808,6 +2808,29 @@ static struct mem_cgroup *mem_cgroup_lookup(unsigned short id)
> >  	return mem_cgroup_from_id(id);
> >  }
> >  
> > +/**
> > + * mem_cgroup_reclaim_eligible - checks whether given memcg is eligible for the
> > + * reclaim
> > + * @memcg: target memcg for the reclaim
> > + * @root: root of the reclaim hierarchy (null for the global reclaim)
> > + *
> > + * The given group is reclaimable if it is above its low limit and the same
> > + * applies for all parents up the hierarchy until root (including).
> > + */
> > +bool mem_cgroup_reclaim_eligible(struct mem_cgroup *memcg,
> > +		struct mem_cgroup *root)
> 
> Could you please rename this to something that is more descriptive in
> the reclaim callsite?  How about mem_cgroup_within_low_limit()?

I have intentionally used somethig that is not low_limit specific. The
generic reclaim code does't have to care about the reason why a memcg is
not reclaimable. I agree that having follow_low_limit paramter explicit
and mem_cgroup_reclaim_eligible not is messy. So something should be
renamed. I would probably go with s@...low_low_limit@...ck_reclaim_eligible@
but I do not have a strong preference.

> > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> > index c1cd99a5074b..0f428158254e 100644
> > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
[...]
> > +static void shrink_zone(struct zone *zone, struct scan_control *sc)
> > +{
> > +	if (!__shrink_zone(zone, sc, true)) {
> > +		/*
> > +		 * First round of reclaim didn't find anything to reclaim
> > +		 * because of low limit protection so try again and ignore
> > +		 * the low limit this time.
> > +		 */
> > +		__shrink_zone(zone, sc, false);
> > +	}
> >  }
> >  
> >  /* Returns true if compaction should go ahead for a high-order request */
> 
> I would actually prefer not having a second round here, and make the
> low limit behave more like mlock memory.  If there is no reclaimable
> memory, go OOM.

This was done in my previous attempt and I prefer OOM myself but it is
also true that starting with a more relaxed limit and adding an
option for hard guarantee later when we have a clear usecase is a better
approach. Although I can see potential in go-oom-rather-than-reclaim
configurations, usecases I am primarily interested in won't overcommit on
low_limit.

That being said, I like the idea of having the hard guarantee but I also
think it should be configurable. I can post those patches in this thread
but I feel it is too early as nobody has explicitly asked for this yet.

-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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