linux-kernel - Re: balance storm

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Date:	Mon, 26 May 2014 20:16:55 +0800
From:	Libo Chen <libo.chen@...wei.com>
To:	Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@...il.com>
CC:	<tglx@...utronix.de>, <mingo@...e.hu>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	"Li Zefan" <lizefan@...wei.com>, <peterz@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: balance storm

On 2014/5/26 13:11, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-05-26 at 11:04 +0800, Libo Chen wrote: 
>> hi,
>>     my box has 16 cpu (E5-2658,8 core, 2 thread per core), i did a test on
>> 3.4.24stable, startup 50 same process, every process is sample:
>>
>>  	#include <unistd.h>
>>
>>  	int main()
>>  	{
>>           	for (;;)
>>           	{
>>                   	unsigned int i = 0;
>>                  	 while (i< 100){
>>                      	 i++;
>>                   	}
>>                   	usleep(100);
>>           	}
>>
>>          	 return 0;
>>   	}
>>
>> the result is process uses 15% cpu time, perf tool shows 70w migrations in 5 second.
> 
> See e0a79f52 sched: Fix select_idle_sibling() bouncing cow syndrome
> 
> That commit will fix expensive as hell bouncing for most real loads, but
> it won't fix your test.  Doing nothing but wake, select_idle_sibling()
> will be traversing all cores/siblings mightily, taking L2 misses as it
> traverses, bouncing wakees that do _nothing_ when an idle CPU is found.
> 
> Your synthetic test is the absolute worst case scenario.  There has to
> be work between wakeups for select_idle_sibling() to have any chance
> whatsoever of turning in a win.  At 0 work, it becomes 100% overhead.

not synthetic, it is a real problem in our product. under no load, waste
much cpu time.

> 
>> I guess task migration takes up a lot of cpu, so i did another test. use taskset tool to bind
>> a task to a fixed cpu. Results in line with expectations, cpu usage is down to 5%.
>>
>> other test:
>> - 3.15upstream has the same problem with 3.4.24.
>> - suse sp2 has low cpu usage about 5%.
> 
> SLE11-SP2 has a patch which fixes that behavior, but of course at the
> expense of other load types.  A trade.  It also throttles nohz, which
> can have substantial cost when cross CPU scheduling.

which patch ?

> 
>> so I think 15% cpu usage and migration event are too high, how to fixed?
> 
> You can't for free, low latency wakeup can be worth one hell of a lot.
> 
> You could do a decayed hit/miss or such to shut the thing off when the
> price is just too high.  Restricting migrations per unit time per task
> also helps cut the cost, but hurts tasks that could have gotten to the
> CPU quicker, and started your next bit of work.  Anything you do there
> is going to be a rob Peter to pay Paul thing.
> 

I had tried to change sched_migration_cost and sched_nr_migrate in /proc,
but no use.  any other  suggestion?

I still think this is a problem to schedular.  it is better to directly solve
this issue instead of a workaroud


thanks,
Libo

> -Mike
> 
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