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Date:	Thu, 12 Jun 2014 13:37:37 -0400
From:	Mimi Zohar <zohar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
To:	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com>
Cc:	Dmitry Kasatkin <d.kasatkin@...sung.com>, dhowells@...hat.com,
	jwboyer@...hat.com, keyrings@...ux-nfs.org,
	linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, dmitry.kasatkin@...il.com,
	mjg59@...f.ucam.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] KEYS: validate key trust only with selected owner
 key

On Thu, 2014-06-12 at 13:32 -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote: 
> On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 08:23:57PM +0300, Dmitry Kasatkin wrote:
> > On 12/06/14 19:03, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 11:48:17AM +0300, Dmitry Kasatkin wrote:
> > >> This patch provides kernel parameter to specify owner's key id which
> > >> must be used for trust validate of keys. Keys signed with other keys
> > >> are not trusted.
> > >>
> > >> Signed-off-by: Dmitry Kasatkin <d.kasatkin@...sung.com>
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am continuing to work on verifying kernel signature for kexec/kdump. I 
> > > am planning to take david howell's patches for pkcs7 signature
> > > verification and verify bzImage signature.
> > >
> > > Part of that process will boil down to verifying a certificate in
> > > pkcs7 x509 cert chain using a key in system_trusted_keyring.
> > >
> > > I think the OS vendor key which signs the kernel signing key propagates to
> > > system_trusted_keyring. (shim has that and I am not sure how shim makes
> > > it propogate all they way to system_trusted_keyring).
> > >
> > > So I was planning to use same functionality where I look for any key
> > > which can verify the signing cert of kernel. As OS vendor key will be
> > > in system_trusted_keyring, it should work.
> > >
> > > Now with this change where you will trust only one selected owner key.
> > > That means you will not even trust the OS vendor key which signs kernel
> > > signing key. I think this will stop working with  keys_ownerid=<....>
> > >
> > > As I am doing that work in parallel and I saw these patches, I thought
> > > I will bring it up.
> > 
> > Hi Vivek,
> > 
> > All keys stays in the keyring. Usage of owner_keyid is limited to
> > validate the trust of the loaded keys.
> 
> Hi Dmitry,
> 
> If owner_keyid scope is just limited to loading extra keys, then it
> should be fine as I don't want to load extra keys. I just want to
> verify already signed image whose key is supposed to be in
> system_trusted_keyring.

Yes, sorry my mistake.

Mimi

> > 
> > 
> > Do you really see OS verndor key (Fedora) on the system keyring?
> > shim is UEFI binary and can add it to the MOK database..
> 
> I have been told that mechanism to propagate they key in shim which is
> used to verify kernel signature is in place and that key should show
> up in system_trusted_keyring. I have never verified it though. I will
> check it out.
> 
> Thanks
> Vivek
> 


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