linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] x86, TSC: Add a software TSC offset

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Date:	Mon, 21 Jul 2014 14:41:50 -0700
From:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
To:	Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>
Cc:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>, x86-ml <x86@...nel.org>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86, TSC: Add a software TSC offset

On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:34:40PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> I'm sure I'm missing something, but where is tsc_offset used outside
>> the tsc startup code? Is it somehow getting programmed into the TSC
>> config registers?
>
> Nah, we're programming the CPU number into the TSC_AUX MSR. However,
> that approach might become obsolete for a simpler, preempt-disable
> version which Peter suggested today. It should be comparatively cheap
> and work on all CPUs, not only RDTSCP-supporting ones:
>
> get_cycles() {
>         preempt_disable();
>         rdtscll() + this_cpu_read(tsc_offset);
>         preempt_disable()
> }
>
> So, to answer your question, the TSC offset will be used in get_cycles(). So
> even on machines with a skewed TSC, we will have a stable TSC counter by
> adding the per-cpu offset each time we read the TSC.
>
> We'll see how it plays out in testing. :)

How will this be compatible with the vdso?

Also, IIRC, rdtscp does not need rdtsc_barrier(), whereas rdtsc does.
Getting this wrong will be a significant slowdown.

--Andy

>
> --
> Regards/Gruss,
>     Boris.
>
> Sent from a fat crate under my desk. Formatting is fine.
> --



-- 
Andy Lutomirski
AMA Capital Management, LLC
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