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Date:	Wed, 23 Jul 2014 20:55:49 -0700
From:	John Stultz <john.stultz@...aro.org>
To:	Soren Brinkmann <soren.brinkmann@...inx.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>, Len Brown <len.brown@...el.com>
CC:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-pm@...r.kernel.org,
	Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@...aro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] suspend/hibernation: Fix racing timers

On 07/21/2014 10:35 AM, Soren Brinkmann wrote:
> On platforms that do not power off during suspend, successfully entering
> suspend races with timers.
>
> The race happening in a couple of location is:
>
>   1. disable IRQs 	(e.g. arch_suspend_disable_irqs())
>      ...
>   2. syscore_suspend()
>         -> tick_suspend() 	(timers are turned off here)
>      ...
>   3. wfi		(wait for wake-IRQ here)
>
> Between steps 1 and 2 the timers can still generate interrupts that are
> not handled and stay pending until step 3. That pending IRQ causes an
> immediate - spurious - wake.
>
> The solution is to remove the timekeeping suspend/resume functions from
> the syscore functions and explictly call them at the appropriate time in
> the suspend/hibernation patchs. I.e. timers are suspend _before_ IRQs
> get disabled. And accordingly in the resume path.

So.. I sort of follow this, though from the description disabling
timekeeping to turn off timers seems a little indirect (I do see that
suspending timekeeping calls clockevents_suspend() which is the key
part). Maybe this could be clarified in a future version of the patch
description?

I worry that moving timekeeping_suspend earlier in the suspend process
might cause problems where things access time in the suspend path. I
recall these orderings have been problematic in the past, and slightly
tweaking them can often destabilize things badly.

I wonder if it would be better just to move the clockevent_suspend()
call to the earlier site, that way timers are halted but timekeeping
continues until its normal suspend point.

thanks
-john

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