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Date:	Mon, 3 Nov 2014 12:12:18 -0500 (EST)
From:	Vince Weaver <vince@...ter.net>
To:	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>
cc:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@...gle.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFD] perf syscall error handling

On Mon, 3 Nov 2014, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:

> Em Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 05:50:19PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra escreveu:
> > On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 02:25:48PM -0200, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo wrote:
>  
> > > The way that peterz suggested, i.e. returning information about which
> > > perf_event_attr and which of the parameters was invalid/had issues could
> > > help with fallbacking/capability querying, i.e. tooling may want to use
> > > some features if available automagically, fallbacking to something else
> > > when that fails.
>  
> > > We already do that to some degree in various cases, but for some if the
> > > only way that becomes available to disambiguate some EINVAL return is a
> > > string, code will start having strcmps :-\
> 
> > OK, so how about we do both, the offset+mask for the tools and the
> > string for the humans?
> 
> Yeah, tooling tries to provide the best it can with the offset+mask, and
> if doesn't manage to do anything smart with it, just show the string and
> hope that helps the user to figure out what is happening.

I don't know if having an offset/mask helps much.  Knowing your EINVAL
comes from ->config is nice to know, but if there's 30 different ways
to get an EINVAL from an improper config then you still can waste a lot
of time narrowing things down.

The string solution might be nice, but it is going to take major changes 
to the code and increase the size a bit.  For example:

$ cat arch/x86/kernel/cpu/perf* kernel/events/* | grep EINVAL | wc -l
100

And some of the code is passing the return values back through various
long callchains (and overloaded pointers via casts) where it's not clear 
how you could also pass a string value.

Vince
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