linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH RFC 1/4] mm: throttle MADV

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Date:	Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:43:18 +0100
From:	Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>
To:	Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>, Shaohua Li <shli@...nel.org>,
	Yalin.Wang@...ymobile.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 1/4] mm: throttle MADV_FREE

On Tue 24-02-15 17:18:14, Minchan Kim wrote:
> Recently, Shaohua reported that MADV_FREE is much slower than
> MADV_DONTNEED in his MADV_FREE bomb test. The reason is many of
> applications went to stall with direct reclaim since kswapd's
> reclaim speed isn't fast than applications's allocation speed
> so that it causes lots of stall and lock contention.

I am not sure I understand this correctly. So the issue is that there is
huge number of MADV_FREE on the LRU and they are not close to the tail
of the list so the reclaim has to do a lot of work before it starts
dropping them?

> This patch throttles MADV_FREEing so it works only if there
> are enough pages in the system which will not trigger backgroud/
> direct reclaim. Otherwise, MADV_FREE falls back to MADV_DONTNEED
> because there is no point to delay freeing if we know system
> is under memory pressure.

Hmm, this is still conforming to the documentation because the kernel is
free to free pages at its convenience. I am not sure this is a good
idea, though. Why some MADV_FREE calls should be treated differently?
Wouldn't that lead to hard to predict behavior? E.g. LIFO reused blocks
would work without long stalls most of the time - except when there is a
memory pressure.

Comparison to MADV_DONTNEED is not very fair IMHO because the scope of the
two calls is different.

> When I test the patch on my 3G machine + 12 CPU + 8G swap,
> test: 12 processes
> 
> loop = 5;
> mmap(512M);

Who is eating the rest of the memory?

> while (loop--) {
> 	memset(512M);
> 	madvise(MADV_FREE or MADV_DONTNEED);
> }
> 
> 1) dontneed: 6.78user 234.09system 0:48.89elapsed
> 2) madvfree: 6.03user 401.17system 1:30.67elapsed
> 3) madvfree + this ptach: 5.68user 113.42system 0:36.52elapsed
> 
> It's clearly win.
> 
> Reported-by: Shaohua Li <shli@...nel.org>
> Signed-off-by: Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org>

I don't know. This looks like a hack with hard to predict consequences
which might trigger pathological corner cases.

> ---
>  mm/madvise.c | 13 +++++++++++--
>  1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/madvise.c b/mm/madvise.c
> index 6d0fcb8921c2..81bb26ecf064 100644
> --- a/mm/madvise.c
> +++ b/mm/madvise.c
> @@ -523,8 +523,17 @@ madvise_vma(struct vm_area_struct *vma, struct vm_area_struct **prev,
>  		 * XXX: In this implementation, MADV_FREE works like
>  		 * MADV_DONTNEED on swapless system or full swap.
>  		 */
> -		if (get_nr_swap_pages() > 0)
> -			return madvise_free(vma, prev, start, end);
> +		if (get_nr_swap_pages() > 0) {
> +			unsigned long threshold;
> +			/*
> +			 * If we have trobule with memory pressure(ie,
> +			 * under high watermark), free pages instantly.
> +			 */
> +			threshold = min_free_kbytes >> (PAGE_SHIFT - 10);
> +			threshold = threshold + (threshold >> 1);

Why threshold += threshold >> 1 ?

> +			if (nr_free_pages() > threshold)
> +				return madvise_free(vma, prev, start, end);
> +		}
>  		/* passthrough */
>  	case MADV_DONTNEED:
>  		return madvise_dontneed(vma, prev, start, end);
> -- 
> 1.9.1
> 
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Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs
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