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Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 15:29:09 +0200
From: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc: Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@....com>,
Preeti U Murthy <preeti@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] sched: Improve load balancing in the presence of idle CPUs
On 30 March 2015 at 14:24, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 01:03:03PM +0100, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
>> On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 12:06:32PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> > On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 05:56:51PM +0000, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
>> >
>> > > I agree that it is hard to predict how many additional cpus you need,
>> > > but I don't think you necessarily need that information as long as you
>> > > start by filling up the cpu that was kicked to do the
>> > > nohz_idle_balance() first.
>> >
>> > > Reducing unnecessary wakeups is quite important for energy consumption
>> > > and something a lot of effort is put into. You really don't want to wake
>> > > up another cluster/package unnecessarily just because there was only one
>> > > nohz-idle cpu left in the previous one which could have handled the
>> > > additional load. It gets even worse if the other cluster is less
>> > > energy-efficient (big.LITTLE).
>> >
>> > So the only way to get tasks to cross your cluster is by balancing that
>> > domain. At this point we'll compute sg stats for either group
>> > (=cluster).
>> >
>> > The only thing we need to ensure is that it doesn't view the small
>> > cluster as overloaded (as long as it really isn't of course), as long as
>> > its not viewed as overloaded it will not pull tasks from it into the big
>> > cluster, no matter how many ILBs we run before the ILB duty cpu's
>> > rebalance_domains() call.
>> >
>> > I'm really not seeing the problem here.
>>
>> I see. The group_classify() should take care of it in all cases of
>> balancing across clusters. You would be iterating over all cpus in the
>> other cluster running rebalance_domains() if the balancer cpu happens to
>> be the last one in the little cluster though. However, within the
>> cluster (in case you have 2 or more nohz-idle cpus) you still take a
>> double hit. No?
>
> It can yes, but typically not I think. This all could use some 'help'
> for sure.
>
> So the thing is, find_new_ilb() simply selects the first idle_cpus_mask
> cpu, while at the same time, nohz_idle_balance() will iterate the
> idle_cpus_mask with the first, being first (obviously).
>
> So it is very like that if we migrate on the ILB it is in fact to the
> current CPU.
>
> In case we cannot, we have no choice but to wake up a second idle,
> nothing really to be done about that.
>
> To put it another way, for ILB purposes the rebalance_domains() call is
> mostly superfluous. The only other case is if the selected ILB target
> became non-idle between being selected and getting to run the softirq
> handler. At which point we should wake another anyhow too.
>
> Maybe something like the below helps -- albeit it could use a comment
> too of course.
>
> ---
> kernel/sched/fair.c | 15 ++++++++++-----
> 1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> index fdae26eb7218..b879d4b3b599 100644
> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> @@ -7624,11 +7624,12 @@ static void rebalance_domains(struct rq *rq, enum cpu_idle_type idle)
> * In CONFIG_NO_HZ_COMMON case, the idle balance kickee will do the
> * rebalancing for all the cpus for whom scheduler ticks are stopped.
> */
> -static void nohz_idle_balance(struct rq *this_rq, enum cpu_idle_type idle)
> +static bool nohz_idle_balance(struct rq *this_rq, enum cpu_idle_type idle)
> {
> int this_cpu = this_rq->cpu;
> - struct rq *rq;
> int balance_cpu;
> + struct rq *rq;
> + bool done = false;
>
> if (idle != CPU_IDLE ||
> !test_bit(NOHZ_BALANCE_KICK, nohz_flags(this_cpu)))
> @@ -7647,6 +7648,8 @@ static void nohz_idle_balance(struct rq *this_rq, enum cpu_idle_type idle)
> break;
>
> rq = cpu_rq(balance_cpu);
> + if (rq == this_rq)
> + done = true;
AFAICT, this can't happen because we start the for_each _cpu loop with:
if (balance_cpu == this_cpu || !idle_cpu(balance_cpu))
continue;
>
> /*
> * If time for next balance is due,
> @@ -7666,6 +7669,8 @@ static void nohz_idle_balance(struct rq *this_rq, enum cpu_idle_type idle)
> nohz.next_balance = this_rq->next_balance;
> end:
> clear_bit(NOHZ_BALANCE_KICK, nohz_flags(this_cpu));
> +
> + return done;
> }
>
> /*
> @@ -7744,7 +7749,7 @@ static inline bool nohz_kick_needed(struct rq *rq)
> return kick;
> }
> #else
> -static void nohz_idle_balance(struct rq *this_rq, enum cpu_idle_type idle) { }
> +static bool nohz_idle_balance(struct rq *this_rq, enum cpu_idle_type idle) { return false; }
> #endif
>
> /*
> @@ -7765,8 +7770,8 @@ static void run_rebalance_domains(struct softirq_action *h)
> * load balance only within the local sched_domain hierarchy
> * and abort nohz_idle_balance altogether if we pull some load.
> */
> - nohz_idle_balance(this_rq, idle);
> - rebalance_domains(this_rq, idle);
> + if (!nohz_idle_balance(this_rq, idle))
> + rebalance_domains(this_rq, idle);
the nohz_idle_balance run rebalance_domains for all CPU except this CPU
> }
>
> /*
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