linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 2/2] locking/rwsem: Use a return variable in rwsem_spin_on

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Date:	Thu, 9 Apr 2015 13:58:16 -0700
From:	Jason Low <jason.low2@...com>
To:	Paul McKenney <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:	Jason Low <jason.low2@...com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@...olabs.net>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com>,
	Aswin Chandramouleeswaran <aswin@...com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] locking/rwsem: Use a return variable in rwsem_spin_on_owner()

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 12:58 PM, Paul E. McKenney
<paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 09, 2015 at 12:43:38PM -0700, Jason Low wrote:
>> On Thu, 2015-04-09 at 11:16 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> > On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 11:08 AM, Linus Torvalds
>> > <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > The pointer is a known-safe kernel pointer - it's just that it was
>> > > "known safe" a few instructions ago, and might be rcu-free'd at any
>> > > time.
>> >
>> > Actually, we could even do something like this:
>> >
>> >  static inline int sem_owner_on_cpu(struct semaphore *sem, struct
>> > task_struct *owner)
>> >  {
>> >         int on_cpu;
>> >
>> >     #ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_PAGEALLOC
>> >         rcu_read_lock();
>> >     #endif
>> >         on_cpu = sem->owner == owner && owner->on_cpu;
>> >     #ifdef CONFIG_DEBUG_PAGEALLOC
>> >         rcu_read_unlock();
>> >     #endif
>> >         return on_cpu;
>> >     }
>> >
>> > because we really don't need to hold the RCU lock over the whole loop,
>> > we just need to validate that the semaphore owner still matches, and
>> > if so, check that it's on_cpu.
>> >
>> > And if CONFIG_DEBUG_PAGEALLOC is set, we don't care about performance
>> > *at*all*. We will have worse performance problems than doing some RCU
>> > read-locking inside the loop.
>> >
>> > And if CONFIG_DEBUG_PAGEALLOC isn't set, we don't really care about
>> > locking, since at worst we just access stale memory for one iteration.
>> >
>> > Hmm. It's not pretty, but neither is the current "let's just take a
>> > rcu lock that we don't really need over a loop that doesn't have very
>> > strict bounding".
>> >
>> > Comments?
>>
>> So that looks more similar to how the original code was where the
>> rcu_read_lock() and rcu_read_unlock() was done inside the owner_running
>> helper function (though without the CONFIG_DEBUG_PAGEALLOC), before
>> commit 307bf9803f25 ("sched: Simplify mutex_spin_on_owner()") modified
>> it to be done outside the loop.
>
> Another approach would be to post a timer before entering the spinloop,
> and have the timer handler set the resched bit.  Then the loop would
> be bounded, safe, and would run at full speed.

Though posting a timer, ect... would also add more overhead right?
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