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Date:	Wed, 15 Apr 2015 12:47:28 -0400
From:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
To:	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Cc:	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
	Al Viro <viro@...IV.linux.org.uk>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Tom Gundersen <teg@...m.no>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Daniel Mack <daniel@...que.org>,
	David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@...il.com>,
	Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@...ndz.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:09:48AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> 
> > But the problem really is that I don't think you've received even a single 
> > Reviewed-by: from someone who hasn't been directly involved in developing 
> > the code, right?
> 
> I've asked for it, but finding people to review code is hard, as you

Perhaps try harder. You know more kernel developers than I do. You don't have
anyone you can say "hey, I need this code reviewed, can you spend some time
to review it for me"? I have a few developers that are willing to do that
for me, and I wont push some code (if it is complex) until they give their
review-by for it. I did that with the latest TRACE_DEFINE_ENUM() code, as
well as my ftrace trampoline code and the multi buffer code. None of that
went in until I had their reviewed-by tags.

> know.  It's only 13k lines long, smaller than a serial port driver (my
> unit of code review), so it's not all that big.

Length of code does not determine the complexity of it.

> 
> It's smaller than the USB3 host controller driver as well, and very few
> people ever reviewed that beast :)
> 
> > For something that's potentially such a core mechanism as a completely 
> > new, massively-adopted IPC, this does send a warning singal.
> 
> If you know of a way to force others to review code, please let me know.

Keep asking, that's the best way. That's what I do. Also, I really like Alan's
approach to this. Let me requote it here:

  - stop writing a dbus only file system
  - figure out what a messaging "vfs" looks like
  - figure out what an clean low level kernel model looks like
  - figure out what has to be where to put the policy in userspace

-- Steve

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