Date:	Tue, 5 May 2015 18:43:10 +0200
From:	Michael Grzeschik <mgr@...gutronix.de>
To:	Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>
Cc:	netdev@...r.kernel.org, mkl@...gutronix.de,
	David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>, kernel@...gutronix.de,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/21] ARCNET: Defibrillation

Hi,

and sorry for the delay.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 08:49:25PM -0700, Joe Perches wrote:
> On Mon, 2015-04-27 at 16:57 +0200, Michael Grzeschik wrote:
> > Hi!
> > 
> > On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 11:58:53PM -0400, David Miller wrote:
> > > From: Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@...gutronix.de>
> > > Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2015 23:14:41 +0200
> > > 
> > > > On 04/24/2015 08:47 PM, Joe Perches wrote:
> > > >> On Fri, 2015-04-24 at 19:20 +0200, Michael Grzeschik wrote:
> > > >>> Hi!
> > > >> 
> > > >> Hello.
> > > >> 
> > > >>> This patch series tries to reanimate the ARCNET hardware layer to be
> > > >>> somehow readable and maintainable again. It includes a lot of cleanup
> > > >>> patches. It also adds some fixes which leads the layer to become usable
> > > >>> again. And as a special treatment it adds more features like correct
> > > >>> loading and unloading of the com20020 card.
> > > >> 
> > > >> Wow.  Good for you, but why?  Does anyone still use these?
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, there are parts of the industry where "old" machines are
> > > > retrofitted with new hardware...and a lot of these machines still talk
> > > > ARCNET :)
> > > 
> > > But the real issue is, this layer is development wise in the same
> > > category as the IDE layer.
> > > 
> > > Any non-trivial change is nothing but pure risk, especially given the
> > > low level of test coverage the code gets.
> > 
> > Do you count coding style patches as non-trivial or trivial
> > patches?
> > 
> > > So I really only want to see the most critical obvious bug fixes
> > > submitted for this layer and drivers.
> > 
> > The cleanup changes I submitted should not change the actual behaviour.
> > Replacing the register access macros with their equivalent outb/inb
> > seems pretty obvious. What is your opinion on those?
> > 
> > I see that the "ARCNET: whitespace, tab and codingstyle fixes" patch is
> > pretty mixed up and not very reliable. But Joe has sent me a nice series
> > for the cleanup.
> > 
> > > And no I will not accept an argument stating that you have to
> > > restructure and clean this code up in order to fix the bugs.  That's
> > > bogus.
> > 
> > OK.
> > 
> > I have the following patches in this series which fix bugs found during
> > my development:
> > 
> > com20020-pci: add dev_port for udev handling
> > ARCNET: fix hard_header_len limit
> > ARCNET: com20020: add enable and disable device on open/close
> > 
> > I would send a new series containing only those patches with more
> > detailed patch descriptions, if that's fine with you?
> 
> I was away for a few days and while out I did another
> restructuring of all the inb/outb/readb/writeb code
> removing all the A<FOO> macros.  It removes all the
> dependencies on ioaddr and names all the offsets with
> new defines.
> 
> I could post if you like.

Sure, you should do that! I will rework my patches on top of them.

> I think it's a lot cleaner and easier to read.

OK!

I would like to know what David things about the whole work.

Thanks,
Michael

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