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Date:	Tue, 12 May 2015 13:43:04 +0800
From:	Dave Young <dyoung@...hat.com>
To:	AKASHI Takahiro <takahiro.akashi@...aro.org>
Cc:	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
	Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas@....com>,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@....com>,
	"vgoyal@...hat.com" <vgoyal@...hat.com>,
	"hbabus@...ibm.com" <hbabus@...ibm.com>,
	"linaro-kernel@...ts.linaro.org" <linaro-kernel@...ts.linaro.org>,
	"geoff@...radead.org" <geoff@...radead.org>,
	"kexec@...ts.infradead.org" <kexec@...ts.infradead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"broonie@...nel.org" <broonie@...nel.org>,
	"david.griego@...aro.org" <david.griego@...aro.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>, ard.biesheuvel@...aro.org
Subject: Re: [v2 0/5] arm64: add kdump support

On 05/11/15 at 03:16pm, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Sorry for late response. I was on vacation.
> 
> On 04/24/2015 06:53 PM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 08:53:03AM +0100, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> >>This patch set enables kdump (crash dump kernel) support on arm64 on top of
> >>Geoff's kexec patchset.
> >>
> >>In this version, there are some arm64-specific usage/constraints:
> >>1) "mem=" boot parameter must be specified on crash dump kernel
> >>    if the system starts on uefi.
> >
> >This sounds very painful. Why is this the case, and how do x86 and/or
> >ia64 get around that?
> 
> As Dave (Young) said, x86 uses "memmap=XX" kernel commandline parameters
> to specify usable memory for crash dump kernel.

Originally x86 use memmap=exactmap memmap=XX to specify each section of
memories for 2nd kernel. But later because a lot of reserved type ranges
need to be passed ie. for pci mmconfig, and kernel cmdline buffer is
limited so kexec-tools later switch to passing these in x86 boot params as
E820 memory ranges directly.

> On my arm64 implementation, "linux,usable-memory" property is added
> to device tree blob by kexec-tools for this purpose.
> This is because, when I first implemented kdump on arm64, ppc is the only
> architecture that supports kdump AND utilizes device trees.
> Since kexec-tools as well as the kernel already has this framework,
> I believed that device-tree approach was smarter than a commandline
> parameter.
> 
> However, uefi-based kernel ignores all the memory-related properties
> in a device tree and so this "mem=" workaround was added.

Kdump kernel reuses the memmap info getting from firmware during 1st kernel
boot, I do not think the memmap info can be cooked for crash kernel usable
memory. But it might be a better way to use a special fdt node for crash
kernel memory even for UEFI..

Another way is introducing a similar memmap=, but maybe consider only
system_ram type ranges. For other memory areas still use UEFI memmap.

Thanks
Dave
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