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Date:	Fri, 15 May 2015 11:15:27 -0400
From:	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@...hip.com>
To:	Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>
CC:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Fabian Frederick <fabf@...net.be>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>,
	Rickard Strandqvist <rickard_strandqvist@...ctrumdigital.se>,
	<gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@...b.auug.org.au>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@...aro.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	<linux-arch@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] add new strscpy() API for string copy

On 05/14/2015 07:10 PM, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-04-30 at 12:01 -0400, Chris Metcalf wrote:
>> This patch series addresses limitations in strncpy() and strlcpy();
>> both the old APIs are unpleasant, as Linus nicely summarized here
>> a couple of days ago:
>>
>>    https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/4/28/570
>>
>> and of course as other folks (Greg K-H and Linus again) said last year:
>>
>>    https://plus.google.com/+gregkroahhartman/posts/1amLbuhWbh5
>>
>> The proposed new API (strscpy(), for "s"afe string copy) has an
>> easy-to-use API for detecting buffer overflow, avoids unsafe truncation
>> by default, and isn't subject to thread-safety attacks like the current
>> strlcpy implementation.  See patch 2/3 for more on why strscpy() is a
>> good thing.
> +1 on the concept.

Thanks.

>> To make strscpy() work more efficiently I did the minimum tweaking
>> necessary to allow <asm/word-at-a-time.h> to work on all architectures,
>> though of course individual maintainers can still make their versions
>> more efficient as needed.
>>
>> It's likely not necessary for per-architecture implementations of
>> strscpy() to be written, but I stuck with the standard __HAVE_ARCH_XXX
>> model just for consistency with the rest of <linux/string.h>.
>>
>> I tested the implementation with a simple user-space harness, so I
>> believe it is correct for the corner cases I could think of.  In
>> particular I pairwise-tested all the unaligned values of source and
>> dest, and tested the restriction on src page-crossing at all
>> unaligned offsets approaching the page boundary.
> Can you please put that in tools/testing/selftests and merge it as part of the
> series? That way I can run the tests and be confident it works on powerpc.

Unfortunately, the strscpy patch series only changes the one previous
user of the API, which is a tile-architecture-only driver piece, not
particularly useful for anyone else for testing.

The testing I did pulled strscpy() and word-at-a-time out into a
separate, standalone userspace implementation, and tested it there,
rather than doing tests through the syscall API like 
tools/testing/selftests.
So I don't really see a way of committing my test framework, other
than as a real Kconfig-enabled boot-time self-test or some such;
I can certainly do that but I don't know how excited people are to
have that additional level of source-code and Kconfig bloat.

-- 
Chris Metcalf, EZChip Semiconductor
http://www.ezchip.com

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