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Date:	Mon, 25 May 2015 11:27:48 +0200
From:	Paul Bolle <pebolle@...cali.nl>
To:	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>
Cc:	Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@...il.com>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...e.com>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@...e.de>, Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, clemens@...isch.de,
	JBottomley@...n.com, David Airlie <airlied@...ux.ie>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@....samsung.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@...dor.apana.org.au>,
	Marcel Holtmann <marcel@...tmann.org>,
	"Gustavo F. Padovan" <gustavo@...ovan.org>,
	Johan Hedberg <johan.hedberg@...il.com>,
	Mikael Starvik <starvik@...s.com>,
	Jesper Nilsson <jesper.nilsson@...s.com>,
	Imre Kaloz <kaloz@...nwrt.org>, khalasa@...p.pl,
	Ohad Ben-Cohen <ohad@...ery.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>, 3chas3@...il.com,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@...e.cz>, Bryan Wu <cooloney@...il.com>,
	Richard Purdie <rpurdie@...ys.net>,
	Jacek Anaszewski <j.anaszewski@...sung.com>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...not-panic.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC v1] tree-wide: remove "select FW_LOADER" uses

On Fri, 2015-05-22 at 22:12 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2015 at 9:30 PM, Austin S Hemmelgarn
> <ahferroin7@...il.com> wrote:
> >>> Either way SUSE kernels also have EXPERT=y as well.  Would not be
> >>> surprised if
> >>> other major distributions also have EXPERT=y.
> >>
> >> Right, I believe Fedora has it set as well.
> >>
> > I'm pretty certain that Fedora does, and that Arch does as well.

Fedora doesn't set EXPERT, and as far as I can see, never has. Same goes
for EMBEDDED, which is the predecessor of EXPERT.

If EXPERT really turns out to be set on most distributions it will have
gone the way of EXPERIMENTAL: a warning sign that lost its impact
through overuse. Perhaps that's the way these things go. But I don't
think that has happened with EXPERT, not yet.


Paul Bolle

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