linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 2/2] ipc,msg: provide barrier pairings for lockless receive

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Date:	Thu, 04 Jun 2015 11:56:51 -0700
From:	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@...olabs.net>
To:	Manfred Spraul <manfred@...orfullife.com>
Cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] ipc,msg: provide barrier pairings for lockless
 receive

On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 11:41 -0700, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 19:57 +0200, Manfred Spraul wrote:
> > On 05/30/2015 02:03 AM, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
> > > We currently use a full barrier on the sender side to
> > > to avoid receiver tasks disappearing on us while still
> > > performing on the sender side wakeup. We lack however,
> > > the proper CPU-CPU interactions pairing on the receiver
> > > side which busy-waits for the message. Similarly, we do
> > > not need a full smp_mb, and can relax the semantics for
> > > the writer and reader sides of the message. This is safe
> > > as we are only ordering loads and stores to r_msg. And in
> > > both smp_wmb and smp_rmb, there are no stores after the
> > > calls _anyway_.
> > I like the idea, the pairing in ipc is not good.
> > Another one is still open in sem.
> 
> Hmm for sems are you referring to spinning on ->status in
> get_queue_result() while another task is performing a wakeup in between
> wake_up_sem_queue_prepare() and wake_up_sem_queue_do()?
> 
> > 
> > Perhaps we should formalize it a bit more, so that it is easy to find 
> > which barrier pair belongs together.
> > It is only an idea, but right now there are too many bugs.
> 
> Good point, however, what do you think of the below instead? Makes it
> crystal clear, imho.

We had to do some formalizing in futex too.

> +		 * Where (A) orders the message value read and where (B) orders
> +		 * the write to the futex -- done in both pipelined_send and
                                      ^^ this should be r_msg

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