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Date:	Mon, 08 Jun 2015 10:57:38 +0800
From:	Hanjun Guo <hanjun.guo@...aro.org>
To:	Lorenzo Pieralisi <lorenzo.pieralisi@....com>
CC:	Tomasz Nowicki <tomasz.nowicki@...aro.org>,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@....com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas@....com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
	Jiang Liu <jiang.liu@...ux.intel.com>,
	Liviu Dudau <Liviu.Dudau@....com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Yijing Wang <wangyijing@...wei.com>,
	"suravee.suthikulpanit@....com" <suravee.suthikulpanit@....com>,
	"msalter@...hat.com" <msalter@...hat.com>,
	"linux-pci@...r.kernel.org" <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	"linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linaro-acpi@...ts.linaro.org" <linaro-acpi@...ts.linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/11] x86, pci, acpi: Move arch-agnostic MMCONFIG (aka
 ECAM) and ACPI code out of arch/x86/ directory

On 2015年06月04日 20:28, Hanjun Guo wrote:
> On 2015年06月04日 18:22, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
>> Hi Hanjun,
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 04, 2015 at 10:28:17AM +0100, Hanjun Guo wrote:
>>> Hi Lorenzo,
>>>
>>> On 2015???06???02??? 21:32, Lorenzo Pieralisi wrote:
>>>> On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 09:06:26AM +0100, Tomasz Nowicki wrote:
>>>>> On 26.05.2015 19:08, Will Deacon wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 01:49:18PM +0100, Hanjun Guo wrote:
>>>>>>> From: Tomasz Nowicki <tomasz.nowicki@...aro.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ECAM standard and MCFG table are architecture independent and it
>>>>>>> makes
>>>>>>> sense to share common code across all architectures. Both are
>>>>>>> going to
>>>>>>> corresponding files - ecam.c and mcfg.c
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> While we are here, rename pci_parse_mcfg to acpi_parse_mcfg.
>>>>>>> We already have acpi_parse_mcfg prototype which is used nowhere.
>>>>>>> At the same time, we need pci_parse_mcfg been global so
>>>>>>> acpi_parse_mcfg
>>>>>>> can be used perfectly here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Tomasz Nowicki <tomasz.nowicki@...aro.org>
>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Hanjun Guo <hanjun.guo@...aro.org>
>>>>>>> Tested-by: Suravee Suthikulpanit <Suravee.Suthikulpanit@....com>
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>     arch/x86/Kconfig               |   3 +
>>>>>>>     arch/x86/include/asm/pci_x86.h |  33 ------
>>>>>>>     arch/x86/pci/acpi.c            |   1 +
>>>>>>>     arch/x86/pci/mmconfig-shared.c | 244
>>>>>>> +---------------------------------------
>>>>>>>     arch/x86/pci/mmconfig_32.c     |   1 +
>>>>>>>     arch/x86/pci/mmconfig_64.c     |   1 +
>>>>>>>     arch/x86/pci/numachip.c        |   1 +
>>>>>>>     drivers/acpi/Makefile          |   1 +
>>>>>>>     drivers/acpi/mcfg.c            |  57 ++++++++++
>>>>>>>     drivers/pci/Kconfig            |   7 ++
>>>>>>>     drivers/pci/Makefile           |   5 +
>>>>>>>     drivers/pci/ecam.c             | 245
>>>>>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why can't we make use of the ECAM implementation used by
>>>>>> pci-host-generic
>>>>>> and drivers/pci/access.c?
>>>>>
>>>>> We had that question when I had posted MMCFG patch set separately,
>>>>> please see:
>>>>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/3/11/492
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but the real question is, why do we need to have PCI config space
>>>> up and running before a bus struct is even created ? I think the
>>>> reason is
>>>> the PCI configuration address space format (ACPI 6.0, Table 5-27, page
>>>> 108):
>>>>
>>>> "PCI Configuration space addresses must be confined to devices on
>>>> PCI Segment Group 0, bus 0. This restriction exists to accommodate
>>>> access to fixed hardware prior to PCI bus enumeration".
>>>>
>>>> On HW reduced platforms I do not even think this is required at all,
>>>> we have to look into this to avoid code duplication that might well
>>>> turn out useless.
>>>
>>> This is only for the fixed hardware, which will be not available for
>>> ARM64 (reduced hardware mode), but in Generic Hardware Programming
>>> Model, we using OEM-provided ACPI Machine Language (AML) code to access
>>> generic hardware registers, this will be available for reduced hardware
>>> too.
>>>
>>> So in ACPI spec, it says: (ACPI 6.0 page 66, last paragraph)
>>>
>>> ACPI defines eight address spaces that may be accessed by generic
>>> hardware implementations. These include:
>>> * System I/O space
>>> * System memory space
>>> * PCI configuration space
>>> * Embedded controller space
>>> * System Management Bus (SMBus) space
>>> * CMOS
>>> * PCI BAR Target
>>> * IPMI space
>>>
>>> So if any device using the PCI address space for control, such
>>> as a system reset control device, its address space can be reside
>>> in PCI configuration space (who can prevent a OEM do that crazy
>>> thing? :) ), and it should be accessible before the PCI bus is
>>> created.
>>
>> Us, by changing attitude and questioning features whose usefulness
>> is questionable. I will look into this and raise the point, I am not
>> thrilled by the idea of adding another set of PCI accessor functions
>> and drivers because we have to access a register through PCI before
>> enumerating the bus (and on arm64 this is totally useless since
>> we are not meant to support fixed HW anyway). Maybe we can make acpica
>> code use a "special" stub (ACPI specific, PCI configuration space address
>> space has restrictions anyway), I have to review this set in its
>> entirety to see how to do that (and I would kindly ask you to do
>> it too, before saying it is not possible to implement it).
>
> I'm willing to do that, actually, if we don't need a mechanism to
> access PCI config space before the bus is created, the code can be
> simplified a lot.

After more investigation on the spec and the ACPI core code, I'm
still not convinced that accessing to PCI config space before PCI
bus creating is impossible, also there is no enough ARM64 hardware
to prove that too. But I think we can go in this way, reuse the
ECAM implementation by pci-host-generic for now, and implement the PCI
accessor functions before enumerating PCI bus when needed in the
future, does it make sense?

Thanks
Hanjun
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