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Date:	Mon, 13 Jul 2015 08:44:26 +0200
From:	Stefan Agner <stefan@...er.ch>
To:	maitysanchayan@...il.com, Jonathan Cameron <jic23@...nel.org>
Cc:	Shawn Guo <shawnguo@...nel.org>, shawn.guo@...aro.org,
	kernel@...gutronix.de, robh+dt@...nel.org, pawel.moll@....com,
	mark.rutland@....com, ijc+devicetree@...lion.org.uk,
	galak@...eaurora.org, B38611@...escale.com,
	devicetree@...r.kernel.org, linux-iio@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] ARM: dts: vfxxx: Add property for minimum sample
 time

On 2015-07-12 08:47, maitysanchayan@...il.com wrote:
> Hello Jonathan,
> 
> On 15-07-11 18:39:10, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
>> On 10/07/15 19:06, maitysanchayan@...il.com wrote:
>> > Hello Shawn,
>> >
>> > On 15-07-10 16:53:24, Shawn Guo wrote:
>> >> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 02:03:41PM +0530, Sanchayan Maity wrote:
>> >>> Add a device tree property which allows to specify the minimum sample
>> >>> time which can be used to calculate the actual ADC cycles required
>> >>> depending on the hardware.
>> >>>
>> >>> Signed-off-by: Sanchayan Maity <maitysanchayan@...il.com>
>> >>> ---
>> >>>  arch/arm/boot/dts/vfxxx.dtsi | 2 ++
>> >>>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
>> >>>
>> >>> diff --git a/arch/arm/boot/dts/vfxxx.dtsi b/arch/arm/boot/dts/vfxxx.dtsi
>> >>> index 90a03d5..71d9c08 100644
>> >>> --- a/arch/arm/boot/dts/vfxxx.dtsi
>> >>> +++ b/arch/arm/boot/dts/vfxxx.dtsi
>> >>> @@ -229,6 +229,7 @@
>> >>>  				status = "disabled";
>> >>>  				fsl,adck-max-frequency = <30000000>, <40000000>,
>> >>>  							<20000000>;
>> >>> +				min-sample-time = <1000>;
>> >>>  			};
>> >>>
>> >>>  			wdoga5: wdog@...3e000 {
>> >>> @@ -447,6 +448,7 @@
>> >>>  				status = "disabled";
>> >>>  				fsl,adck-max-frequency = <30000000>, <40000000>,
>> >>>  							<20000000>;
>> >>> +				min-sample-time = <1000>;
>> >>
>> >> Can we code 1000 as the default in kernel driver, so that only boards
>> >> requiring different value need to have this property?  Doing so makes
>> >> the property optional rather than required.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Not sure if hardcoding it in the driver is the right approach.
>> If it is a true feature of the device (i.e. if in the case of perfect
>> front end electronics) this is the right option, then a default makes
>> a lot of sense.  If that isn't the case (I suspect not) then if we
>> drop it be optional chances are no one will bother thinking about it
>> or trying to tune this at all.
>>
>> Hence seems wrong to put a fairly arbitrary default value on it.
>> However, we do need to still work with old device trees and new kernels
>> so need to cope without it.
>>
>> Hence to my mind, if we had started out with this in the first driver
>> version, then the default would be a bad idea.  As we didn't then we
>> really need to cope with nothing specified (as best we can) and so
>> we do need a sensible default (or perhaps even sensible worst
>> case default) in there.

I agree with Jonathan's argumentation, let's add a default if the dt
propery is not there.

1000ns seems to be a good default value over a wide range of external
resistance/capacity according to the diagrams of the data sheet, so I
would vote for that value as default.

> 
> Just to be sure, do I understand you correctly that you agree with the
> property being in device tree?

I don't think that the device tree property is in discussion, it is just
about whether to add a default value in the driver or not...

> 
> If the device tree property is not specified the driver will just go on
> to use the value "3" which was hardcoded earlier. In my opinion it is
> better to allow users to change the sampling cycles by specifying or not
> specifying this in the device tree rather than have a default value coded
> in the driver. However this is just my opinion.
> 
> Also, some users might not need the somewhat worst case value of 1000. I
> guess we could keep the driver patch the way it is right now and migrate
> the property to be specified in our board dts file? So the property can
> be picked up from the vf-colibri.dtsi or vf500-colibri.dtsi in the adc
> node? Other boards can do the same?

I agree too, especially when we have a default value in the driver, the
property belongs into the board file. I suggest to add the default value
of 1000 to the vf-colibri.dtsi (even if this is the driver default, so
we explicitly request that "verified" value..)

--
Stefan

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