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Date:	Mon, 03 Aug 2015 13:34:40 +0200
From:	Lukasz Pawelczyk <l.pawelczyk@...sung.com>
To:	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>
Cc:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@...il.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	Casey Schaufler <casey@...aufler-ca.com>,
	David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@...isplace.org>,
	Fabian Frederick <fabf@...net.be>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	James Morris <james.l.morris@...cle.com>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@...e.com>, Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>,
	John Johansen <john.johansen@...onical.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@....samsung.com>,
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	Paul Moore <paul@...l-moore.com>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@...ho.nsa.gov>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@...ove.SAKURA.ne.jp>,
	Zefan Li <lizefan@...wei.com>, linux-doc@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org, selinux@...ho.nsa.gov,
	havner@...il.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 01/11] user_ns: 3 new LSM hooks for user namespace
 operations

On piÄ…, 2015-07-31 at 22:48 -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 11:28:56AM +0200, Lukasz Pawelczyk wrote:
> > On czw, 2015-07-30 at 16:30 -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 12:04:35PM +0200, Lukasz Pawelczyk wrote:
> > > > @@ -969,6 +982,7 @@ static int userns_install(struct nsproxy 
> > > > *nsproxy, struct ns_common *ns)
> > > >  {
> > > >  	struct user_namespace *user_ns = to_user_ns(ns);
> > > >  	struct cred *cred;
> > > > +	int err;
> > > >  
> > > >  	/* Don't allow gaining capabilities by reentering
> > > >  	 * the same user namespace.
> > > > @@ -986,6 +1000,10 @@ static int userns_install(struct nsproxy 
> > > > *nsproxy, struct ns_common *ns)
> > > >  	if (!ns_capable(user_ns, CAP_SYS_ADMIN))
> > > >  		return -EPERM;
> > > >  
> > > > +	err = security_userns_setns(nsproxy, user_ns);
> > > > +	if (err)
> > > > +		return err;
> > > 
> > > So at this point the LSM thinks current is in the new ns.  If
> > > prepare_creds() fails below, should it be informed of that?
> > > (Or am I over-thinking this?)
> > > 
> > > > +
> > > >  	cred = prepare_creds();
> > > >  	if (!cred)
> > > >  		return -ENOMEM;
> > 
> > Hmm, the use case for this hook I had in mind was just to allow or
> > disallow the operation based on the information passed in 
> > arguments.
> > Not to register the current in any way so LSM can think it is or 
> > isn't
> > in the new namespace.
> > 
> > I think that any other LSM check that would like to know in what
> > namespace the current is, would just check that from current's 
> > creds.
> > Not use some stale and duplicated information the above hook could 
> > have
> > registered.
> > 
> > I see no reason for this hook to change the LSM state, only to 
> > answer
> > the question: allowed/disallowed (eventually return an error cause 
> > it
> > is unable to give an answer which falls into the disallow 
> > category).
> 
> How about renaming it "security_userns_may_setns()" for clarity?

I personally have nothing against it. However looking at already
existing hooks only one of them has "may" in the name (unix_may_send)
while a lot clearly have exactly this purpose (e.g. most of inode_*
family, some from file_* and task_*). So it seems the trend is against
it.

What do you think? Anyone else has an opinion?



-- 
Lukasz Pawelczyk
Samsung R&D Institute Poland
Samsung Electronics



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