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Date:	Fri, 4 Dec 2015 17:00:58 -0700
From:	Andreas Dilger <adilger@...ger.ca>
To:	Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@...onical.com>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>
Cc:	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@...onical.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@...il.com>,
	Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@...il.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@...redi.hu>,
	linux-bcache@...r.kernel.org, dm-devel@...hat.com,
	linux-raid@...r.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-mtd@...ts.infradead.org,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
	fuse-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net,
	linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org, selinux@...ho.nsa.gov
Subject: Re: [PATCH 14/19] fs: Permit FIBMAP for users with CAP_SYS_RAWIO in s_user_ns


> On Dec 4, 2015, at 4:11 PM, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 02:45:32PM -0600, Seth Forshee wrote:
>> On Fri, Dec 04, 2015 at 02:07:36PM -0600, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
>>> Heh, I was looking over http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/linux/kernel/103611
>>> a little while ago :)  The same question was asked 16 years ago.  Apparently
>>> the answer then was that it was easier than fixing the code.
>> 
>> So it seems then that either it still isn't safe and so unprivileged
>> users shouldn't be allowed to do it at all, or else it's safe and we
>> should drop the requirement completely. I can't say which is right,
>> unfortunately.
> 
> It may not have been safe 16 years agoo, but giving invalid arguments
> to FIBMAP is safe for ext4 and ext2.  This is the sort of thing that
> tools like trinity should and does test for, so I think it should be
> fine to remove the root check for FIBMAP.

You can use FIEMAP on regular files and directories without special permission:

$ filefrag -v /etc
Filesystem type is: ef53
File size of /etc is 12288 (3 blocks of 4096 bytes)
 ext:     logical_offset:        physical_offset: length:   expected: flags:
   0:        0..       0:    8396832..   8396832:      1:
   1:        1..       2:    8397051..   8397052:      2:    8396833: last,eof
/etc: 2 extents found


FIEMAP also has the benefit that you don't need to call it millions of times
for large files, like is needed for FIBMAP.

Cheers, Andreas






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