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Date:	Wed, 30 Dec 2015 11:43:15 -0800
From:	Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@...nel.org>
To:	Chao Yu <chao@...nel.org>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written
 pages

On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 11:35:20PM +0800, Chao Yu wrote:
> On 12/30/15 9:34 AM, Chao Yu wrote:
> > Hi Jaegeuk,
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jaegeuk Kim [mailto:jaegeuk@...nel.org]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 8:05 AM
> >> To: Chao Yu
> >> Cc: linux-f2fs-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net; linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] f2fs: support revoking atomic written pages
> >>
> >> Hi Chao,
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 11:12:36AM +0800, Chao Yu wrote:
> >>> f2fs support atomic write with following semantics:
> >>> 1. open db file
> >>> 2. ioctl start atomic write
> >>> 3. (write db file) * n
> >>> 4. ioctl commit atomic write
> >>> 5. close db file
> >>>
> >>> With this flow we can avoid file becoming corrupted when abnormal power
> >>> cut, because we hold data of transaction in referenced pages linked in
> >>> inmem_pages list of inode, but without setting them dirty, so these data
> >>> won't be persisted unless we commit them in step 4.
> >>>
> >>> But we should still hold journal db file in memory by using volatile write,
> >>> because our semantics of 'atomic write support' is not full, in step 4, we
> >>> could be fail to submit all dirty data of transaction, once partial dirty
> >>> data was committed in storage, db file should be corrupted, in this case,
> >>> we should use journal db to recover the original data in db file.
> >>
> >> Originally, IOC_ABORT_VOLATILE_WRITE was supposed to handle commit failures,
> >> since database should get its error literally.
> >>
> >> So, the only thing that we need to do is keeping journal data for further db
> >> recovery.
> > 
> > IMO, if we really support *atomic* interface, we don't need any journal data
> > kept by user, because f2fs already have it in its storage since we always
> > trigger OPU for pages written in atomic-write opened file, f2fs can easily try
> > to revoke (replace old to new in metadata) when any failure exist in atomic
> > write process.
> > 
> > But in current design, we still hold journal data in memory for recovering for
> > *rare* failure case. I think there are several issues:
> > a) most of time, we are in concurrent scenario, so if large number of journal
> > db files were opened simultaneously, we are under big memory pressure.
> > b) If we are out of memory, reclaimer tries to write page of journal db into
> > disk, it will destroy db file.
> > c) Though, we have journal db file, we will face failure of recovering db file
> > from journal db due to ENOMEM or EIO, then db file will be corrupted.
> > d) Recovery flow will make data page dirty, triggering both data stream and
> > metadata stream, there should be more IOs than in inner revoking in
> > atomic-interface.
> > e) Moreover, there should be a hole between 1) commit fail and 2) abort write &
> > recover, checkpoint will persist the corrupt data in db file, following abnormal
> > power-cut will leave that data in disk.
> > 
> > With revoking supported design, we can not solve all above issues, we will still
> > face the same issue like c), but it will be a big improve if we can apply this
> > in our interface, since it provide a way to fix the issue a) b) d). And also for
> > e) case, we try to rescue data in first time that our revoking operation would be
> > protected by f2fs_lock_op to avoid checkpoint + power-cut.
> > 
> > If you don't want to have a big change in this interface or recovery flow, how
> > about keep them both, and add a mount option to control inner recovery flow?
> 
> Or introduce F2FS_IOC_COMMIT_ATOMIC_WRITE_V2 for revoking supported interface?
> 
> > 
> > How do you think? :)
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> >> But, unfortunately, it seems that something is missing in the
> >> current implementation.
> >>
> >> So simply how about this?
> >>
> >> A possible flow would be:
> >> 1. write journal data to volatile space
> >> 2. write db data to atomic space
> >> 3. in the error case, call ioc_abort_volatile_writes for both journal and db
> >>  - flush/fsync journal data to disk
> >>  - drop atomic data, and will be recovered by database with journal
> >>
> >> From cb33fc8bc30981c370ec70fe68871130109793ec Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> >> From: Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@...nel.org>
> >> Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2015 15:46:33 -0800
> >> Subject: [PATCH] f2fs: fix f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write
> >>
> >> There are two rules to handle aborting volatile or atomic writes.
> >>
> >> 1. drop atomic writes
> >>  - we don't need to keep any stale db data.
> >>
> >> 2. write journal data
> >>  - we should keep the journal data with fsync for db recovery.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk@...nel.org>
> >> ---
> >>  fs/f2fs/file.c | 13 ++++++++++---
> >>  1 file changed, 10 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/fs/f2fs/file.c b/fs/f2fs/file.c
> >> index 91f576a..d16438a 100644
> >> --- a/fs/f2fs/file.c
> >> +++ b/fs/f2fs/file.c
> >> @@ -1433,9 +1433,16 @@ static int f2fs_ioc_abort_volatile_write(struct file *filp)
> >>  	if (ret)
> >>  		return ret;
> >>
> >> -	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
> >> -	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
> >> -	commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
> >> +	if (f2fs_is_atomic_file(inode)) {
> >> +		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_ATOMIC_FILE);
> >> +		commit_inmem_pages(inode, true);
> >> +	}
> >> +	if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode)) {
> >> +		clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
> >> +		ret = commit_inmem_pages(inode, false);
> 
> Any more inmem pages exist here? Shouldn't these page have been released above?

Oh, this should be like:

if (f2fs_is_volatile_file(inode)) {
	clear_inode_flag(F2FS_I(inode), FI_VOLATILE_FILE);
	ret = f2fs_sync_file(filp, 0, LLONG_MAX, 0);
}

Thanks,

> 
> Thanks,
> 
> >> +		if (!ret)
> >> +			ret = f2fs_sync_file(filp, 0, LLONG_MAX, 0);
> >> +	}
> >>
> >>  	mnt_drop_write_file(filp);
> >>  	return ret;
> >> --
> >> 2.6.3
> > 
> > 
> > 
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