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Date:	Thu, 3 Mar 2016 18:45:55 +0100
From:	Alexander Potapenko <glider@...gle.com>
To:	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>
Cc:	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	mingo@...hat.com, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrey Ryabinin <aryabinin@...tuozzo.com>,
	catalin.marinas@....com, lorenzo.pieralisi@....com,
	peterz@...radead.org, will.deacon@....com,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, linux-arch@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 0/3] KASAN: clean stale poison upon cold re-entry to kernel

On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 6:40 PM, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Mar 03, 2016 at 06:17:31PM +0100, Alexander Potapenko wrote:
>> Please replace "ASAN" with "KASAN".
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 5:54 PM, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com> wrote:
>> > Functions which the compiler has instrumented for ASAN place poison on
>> > the stack shadow upon entry and remove this poison prior to returning.
>> >
>> > In some cases (e.g. hotplug and idle), CPUs may exit the kernel a number
>> > of levels deep in C code. If there are any instrumented functions on
>> > this critical path, these will leave portions of the idle thread stack
>> > shadow poisoned.
>> >
>> > If a CPU returns to the kernel via a different path (e.g. a cold entry),
>> > then depending on stack frame layout subsequent calls to instrumented
>> > functions may use regions of the stack with stale poison, resulting in
>> > (spurious) KASAN splats to the console.
>> >
>> > Contemporary GCCs always add stack shadow poisoning when ASAN is
>> > enabled, even when asked to not instrument a function [1], so we can't
>> > simply annotate functions on the critical path to avoid poisoning.
>> >
>> > Instead, this series explicitly removes any stale poison before it can
>> > be hit. In the common hotplug case we clear the entire stack shadow in
>> > common code, before a CPU is brought online.
>> >
>> > On architectures which perform a cold return as part of cpu idle may
>> > retain an architecture-specific amount of stack contents. To retain the
>> > poison for this retained context, the arch code must call the core KASAN
>> > code, passing a "watermark" stack pointer value beyond which shadow will
>> > be cleared. Architectures which don't perform a cold return as part of
>> > idle do not need any additional code.
>
> For the above, and the rest of the series, ASAN consistently refers to
> the compiler AddressSanitizer feature, and KASAN consistently refers to
> the Linux-specific infrastructure. A simple s/[^K]ASAN/KASAN/ would
> arguably be wrong (e.g. when referring to GCC behaviour above).
I don't think there's been any convention about the compiler feature
name, we usually talked about ASan as a userspace tool and KASAN as a
kernel-space one, although they share the compiler part.

> If there is a this needs rework, then I'm happy to s/[^K]ASAN/ASan/ to
> follow the usual ASan naming convention and avoid confusion. Otherwise,
> spinning a v3 is simply churn.
I don't insist on changing this, I should've chimed in before.
Feel free to retain the above patch description.
> Thanks,
> Mark.



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