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Date:	Mon, 04 Apr 2016 15:36:11 -0400
From:	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>
To:	Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@...lanox.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@...hat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@...aro.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] nohz_full: Make sched_should_stop_tick() more
 conservative

On Mon, 2016-04-04 at 15:31 -0400, Chris Metcalf wrote:
> On 4/4/2016 3:12 PM, Rik van Riel wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, 2016-04-01 at 15:42 -0400, Chris Metcalf wrote:
> > > 
> > > On arm64, when calling enqueue_task_fair() from
> > > migration_cpu_stop(),
> > > we find the nr_running value updated by add_nr_running(), but the
> > > cfs.nr_running value has not always yet been
> > > updated.  Accordingly,
> > > the sched_can_stop_tick() false returns true when we are
> > > migrating a
> > > second task onto a core.
> > I don't get it.
> > 
> > Looking at the enqueue_task_fair(), I see this:
> > 
> >          for_each_sched_entity(se) {
> >                  cfs_rq = cfs_rq_of(se);
> >                  cfs_rq->h_nr_running++;
> > 		...
> > 	}
> > 
> >          if (!se)
> >                  add_nr_running(rq, 1);
> > 
> > What is the difference between cfs_rq->h_nr_running,
> > and rq->cfs.nr_running?
> > 
> > Why do we have two?
> > Are we simply testing against the wrong one in
> > sched_can_stop_tick?
> It seems that using the non-CFS one is what we want.  I don't know
> whether
> using a different CFS count instead might be more correct.
> 
> Since I'm not sure what causes the difference I see between tile
> (correct)
> and arm64 (incorrect) it's hard for me to speculate.
> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Correct this by using rq->nr_running instead of rq-
> > > >cfs.nr_running.
> > > This should always be more conservative, and reverts the test to
> > > the
> > > form it had before commit 76d92ac305f2 ("sched: Migrate sched to
> > > use
> > > new tick dependency mask model").
> > That would cause us to run the timer tick while running
> > a single SCHED_RR real time task, with a single
> > SCHED_OTHER task sitting in the background (which will
> > not get run until the SCHED_RR task is done).
> No, because in sched_can_stop_tick(), we first handle the special
> cases of RR or FIFO tasks present.  For example, RR:
> 
>          if (rq->rt.rr_nr_running) {
>                  if (rq->rt.rr_nr_running == 1)
>                          return true;
>                  else
>                          return false;
>          }
> 
> Once we see there's any RR tasks running, the return value
> ignores any possible SCHED_OTHER tasks.  Only after the code
> concludes there are no RR/FIFO tasks do we even look at
> the over nr_running value.

OK, fair enough. I guess both of the RT cases are
covered already.

Patch gets my:

Acked-by: Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>

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