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Date:	Sat, 02 Jul 2016 16:12:07 -0700
From:	Stefan Agner <stefan@...er.ch>
To:	festevam@...il.com, Dong Aisheng <aisheng.dong@....com>
Cc:	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@...eaurora.org>, linux-clk@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, mturquette@...libre.com,
	shawnguo@...nel.org, linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
	tglx@...utronix.de, l.stach@...gutronix.de,
	cyrille.pitchen@...el.com, manabian@...il.com, anson.huang@....com
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/7] support clk setting during kernel early boot

On 2016-07-01 18:12, Stephen Boyd wrote:
> On 06/29, Dong Aisheng wrote:
>> Recently several people met the kernel complaining
>> "bad: scheduling from the idle thread!" issue which caused by
>> sleeping during kernel early booting phase by calling clk
>> APIs like clk_prepare_enable.
>>
>> See:
>> https://lkml.org/lkml/fancy/2016/1/29/695
>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/6/10/779
>> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-clk/msg08635.html
> 
> That last one was another bug that happened to trigger this
> problem mistakenly. I doubt critical clks are an issue (more
> below).
> 
>>
>> The calling sequence simply could be like:
>> start_kernel
>>   ->time_init
>>     ->of_clk_init
>>       ->clk_core_prepare
>>         ->clk_pllv3_prepare
>>           ->usleep_range
>>             ->dequeue_task_idle
>>
>> This issue is mainly caused during time_init, the irq is still
>> not enabled and scheduler is still not ready, thus there's no way
>> to allow sleep at that time.
>>
>> However, there're many exist platforms calling clk_prepare_enable/
>> clk_get_rate/clk_set_parent at that time in CLK_OF_DECLARE init
>> function.
>> e.g
>> drivers/clk/imx/clk-{soc}.c
>> drivers/clk/rockchip/clk-rk3188.c
>> drivers/clk/ti/clk-44xx.c
>> ...
>>
>> And irqchip and clock source is also initialized before it which
>> may requires to do clk settings.
>>
>> Furthermore, current clk framework also supports critical clocks
>> flagged by CLK_IS_CRITICAL which will be prepared and
>> enabled during clk_register by clk core, that is also happened
>> quite early in of_clk_init usually.
>>
>> And clk framework also supports assign default clk rate and parent for
>> each registered clk provider which also happens early in of_clk_init.
>> (see of_clk_set_defaults())
>>
>> Above are all possible cases which may cause sleeping during kernel
>> early booting.
> 
> How many of these cases are really happening and causing problems
> though?
> 
>>
>> So it seems we'd like to have the requirement to make kernel support
>> calling clk APIs during kernel early boot without sleep.
> 
> I wonder if the problem is more that the framework doesn't know
> the hardware state of on/off when it initializes? So we call the
> clk_ops prepare/enable functions when we really shouldn't be
> doing that at all because the clk is already prepared/enabled.
> Presumably for critical clks, we shouldn't go and touch any
> hardware to turn them on, because by definition they're critical
> and should already be on anyway.

I found that remark interesting, and agree here with Stephen, critical
clks should be already on and everything else should be controlled from
drivers.

With that in mind I went on and looked again what is currently (after
the parents enable patchset) still wrong on i.MX 7. Turned out to be not
that much, and I think it should be fixable with that:
https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/7/2/138

--
Stefan

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