linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 02/10] driver core: Functional dependencies tracking support

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Date:	Wed, 20 Jul 2016 02:33:18 +0200
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>
To:	Lukas Wunner <lukas@...ner.de>
Cc:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@...sung.com>,
	"linux-pm@...r.kernel.org" <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"open list:AMD IOMMU (AMD-VI)" <iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-samsung-soc@...r.kernel.org,
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	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@...tes.org>,
	Inki Dae <inki.dae@...sung.com>, Kukjin Kim <kgene@...nel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <k.kozlowski@...sung.com>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@...sung.com>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@...aro.org>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>,
	Andreas Noever <andreas.noever@...il.com>,
	linux-pci@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/10] driver core: Functional dependencies tracking support

On Friday, June 17, 2016 04:07:38 PM Lukas Wunner wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 02:54:56PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Lukas Wunner <lukas@...ner.de> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 08:26:52AM +0200, Marek Szyprowski wrote:
> > > > From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>
> > > We also have such a functional dependency for Thunderbolt on Macs:
> > > On resume from system sleep, the PCIe hotplug ports may not resume
> > > before the thunderbolt driver has reestablished the PCI tunnels.
> > > Currently this is enforced by quirk_apple_wait_for_thunderbolt()
> > > in drivers/pci/quirks.c. It would be good if we could represent
> > > this dependency using something like Rafael's approach instead of
> > > open coding it, however one detail in Rafael's patches is problematic:
> > >
> > > > New links are added by calling device_link_add() which may happen
> > > > either before the consumer device is probed or when probing it, in
> > > > which case the caller needs to ensure that the driver of the
> > > > supplier device is present and functional and the DEVICE_LINK_PROBE_TIME
> > > > flag should be passed to device_link_add() to reflect that.
> > >
> > > The thunderbolt driver cannot call device_link_add() before the
> > > PCIe hotplug ports are bound to a driver unless we amend portdrv
> > > to return -EPROBE_DEFER for Thunderbolt hotplug ports on Macs
> > > if the thunderbolt driver isn't loaded.
> > >
> > > It would therefore be beneficial if device_link_add() can be
> > > called even *after* the consumer is bound.
> > 
> > I don't quite follow.
> > 
> > Who's the provider and who's the consumer here?
> 
> thunderbolt.ko is the supplier.

But it binds to the children of the ports that are supposed to be its
consumers?

Why is that even expected to work?

Thanks,
Rafael