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Date:	Thu, 18 Aug 2016 14:24:14 +0100
From:	Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net>
To:	Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>
Cc:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@...tuozzo.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Bob Peterson <rpeterso@...hat.com>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>,
	"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@...el.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>, LKP <lkp@...org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [LKP] [lkp] [xfs] 68a9f5e700: aim7.jobs-per-min -13.6% regression

On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 05:11:11PM +1000, Dave Chinner wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 01:45:17AM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 04:49:07PM +0100, Mel Gorman wrote:
> > > > Yes, we could try to batch the locking like DaveC already suggested
> > > > (ie we could move the locking to the caller, and then make
> > > > shrink_page_list() just try to keep the lock held for a few pages if
> > > > the mapping doesn't change), and that might result in fewer crazy
> > > > cacheline ping-pongs overall. But that feels like exactly the wrong
> > > > kind of workaround.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Even if such batching was implemented, it would be very specific to the
> > > case of a single large file filling LRUs on multiple nodes.
> > > 
> > 
> > The latest Jason Bourne movie was sufficiently bad that I spent time
> > thinking how the tree_lock could be batched during reclaim. It's not
> > straight-forward but this prototype did not blow up on UMA and may be
> > worth considering if Dave can test either approach has a positive impact.
> 
> SO, I just did a couple of tests. I'll call the two patches "sleepy"
> for the contention backoff patch and "bourney" for the Jason Bourne
> inspired batching patch. This is an average of 3 runs, overwriting
> a 47GB file on a machine with 16GB RAM:
> 
> 		IO throughput	wall time __pv_queued_spin_lock_slowpath
> vanilla		470MB/s		1m42s		25-30%
> sleepy		295MB/s		2m43s		<1%
> bourney		425MB/s		1m53s		25-30%
> 

Thanks. I updated the tests today and reran them trying to reproduce what
you saw but I'm simply not seeing it on bare metal with a spinning disk.

xfsio Throughput
                          4.8.0-rc2             4.8.0-rc2             4.8.0-rc2
                            vanilla                sleepy               bourney
Min      tput    147.4450 (  0.00%)    147.2580 (  0.13%)    147.3900 (  0.04%)
Hmean    tput    147.5853 (  0.00%)    147.5101 (  0.05%)    147.6121 ( -0.02%)
Stddev   tput      0.1041 (  0.00%)      0.1785 (-71.47%)      0.2036 (-95.63%)
CoeffVar tput      0.0705 (  0.00%)      0.1210 (-71.56%)      0.1379 (-95.59%)
Max      tput    147.6940 (  0.00%)    147.6420 (  0.04%)    147.8820 ( -0.13%)

I'm currently setting up a KVM instance that may fare better. Due to
quirks of where machines are, I have to setup the KVM instance on real
NUMA hardware but maybe that'll make the problem even more obvious.

> The overall CPU usage of sleepy was much lower than the others, but
> it was also much slower. Too much sleeping and not enough reclaim
> work being done, I think.
> 

Looks like it. On my initial test, there was barely any sleeping.

> As for bourney, it's not immediately clear as to why it's nearly as
> bad as the movie. At worst I would have expected it to have not
> noticable impact, but maybe we are delaying freeing of pages too
> long and so stalling allocation of new pages? It also doesn't do
> much to reduce contention, especially considering the reduction in
> throughput.
> 
> On a hunch that the batch list isn't all one mapping, I sorted it.
> Patch is below if you're curious.
> 

The fact that sorting makes such a difference makes me think that it's
the wrong direction. It's far too specific to this test case and does
nothing to throttle a reclaimer. It's also fairly complex and I expected
that normal users of remove_mapping such as truncation would take a hit.

The hit of bouncing the lock around just hurts too much.

> FWIW, I just remembered about /proc/sys/vm/zone_reclaim_mode.
> 

That is a terrifying "fix" for this problem. It just happens to work
because there is no spillover to other nodes so only one kswapd instance
is potentially active.

> Anyway, I've burnt enough erase cycles on this SSD for today....
> 

I'll continue looking at getting KVM up and running and then consider
other possibilities for throttling.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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