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Date:   Tue, 18 Oct 2016 12:40:45 -0400
From:   Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@...cle.com>
To:     Juergen Gross <jgross@...e.com>,
        Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@...cle.com>
Cc:     david.vrabel@...rix.com, xen-devel@...ts.xenproject.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, roger.pau@...rix.com
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH 6/8] xen/pvh: Initialize grant table for PVH
 guests

On 10/18/2016 12:08 PM, Juergen Gross wrote:
> On 14/10/16 22:02, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>> On 10/14/2016 03:51 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 03:43:19PM -0400, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>>>> On 10/14/2016 03:19 PM, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 02:05:16PM -0400, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps add in here:
>>>>>
>>>>> PVH is like PV in that there are no PCI devices - which HVM
>>>>> code would piggyback on to find the Xen PCI platform device and
>>>>> use its MMIO space to stash the grants in.
>>>>>
>>>>> For PVH we balloon out memory and stash the grants in there.
>>>>>
>>>>> (Which begs the next question - where and when do we balloon out the
>>>>> normal memory back in?)
>>>> Are you saying that we should get back memory that we gave to grant tables?
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> In pure HVM that area is MMIO - which hvmloader has balloonned out.
>>>
>>> The hvmloader then balloons that number of pages back  at the end of
>>> guest memory (after 4GB).
>> We don't do this for PV though, do we?
> Uuh, kind of. We try to allocate granted pages from the ballooned area.
> See gnttab_alloc_pages().


I meant that we don't give memory back for PV.


>
> So for PV(H) we don't need to balloon this memory back in as it was
> never shadowed by a grant.


Is it *never* or *may or may not be* shadowed? (I assume "shadowed"
means "used for" here.)

-boris

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