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Date:   Mon, 24 Oct 2016 10:16:58 -0700
From:   Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
To:     Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@...il.com>
Cc:     LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
Subject: Re: [GIT pull] timer updates for 4.9

On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 7:51 AM, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de> wrote:
>
> Can you please check in the disassembly whether gcc really reloads
> timer->flags? Mine does not...

No, me neither. The code generation for lock_timer_base() looks
reasonable, although not pretty (it needs one spill for the
complexities in get_timer_cpu_base(), and the "*flags" games results
in some unnecessary indirection too).

I will try your patch, but also stare at my code some more.

I'm starting to think that the problem could be due to the timer code
being triggered _way_ too early (printk() ends up being obviously used
long before most things end up using timers), and that the problem I
see is just later fallout from that.

Sergey (added to participants) tried an earlier version of my patch,
and had more debug options enabled, and got

  BUG: spinlock bad magic on CPU#0

from mod_timer() doing _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore(), when the
printk() callchain happens very early in setup_arch ->
setup_memory_map -> e820_print_map().

So I think the timer bugs I found were _potentially_ true bugs, but
likely not the cause of this all.

init_timers() happens early, but we do printk's even earlier.

I'll add a "if (system_state > SYSTEM_BOOTING)" or something to test
that theory.

                     Linus

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