linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 0/4] x86: enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention

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Date:   Thu, 10 Nov 2016 20:14:58 -0800
From:   Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@...ux.intel.com>
To:     Stas Sergeev <stsp@...t.ru>
Cc:     Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
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        X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>,
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        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
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        Chen Yucong <slaoub@...il.com>,
        Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@...lanox.com>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...ux.intel.com>,
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        Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        Shuah Khan <shuah@...nel.org>, linux-msdos@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] x86: enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention

On Thu, 2016-11-10 at 11:52 +0300, Stas Sergeev wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> I don't know the context of that discussion, so I'll only
> comment on the dosemu part.

I'm sorry! I will cc you and the linux-msdos list in my v2.
> 
> 10.11.2016 09:46, Ricardo Neri пишет:
> > I took a closer look at the dosemu code. It appears that it does not
> > purposely utilize SGDT to obtain the descriptor table while in vm86. It
> > does use SGDT (in protected mode) to emulate certain functionality such
> > as the Virtual xxx Driver. In such a case, UMIP needs to be disabled.
> > However, this code seems to be disabled [1].
> Indeed.
> The code you've found, was copied from wine, because
> dosemu supports windows-3.1. But sgdt is in win32s part
> that is disabled in dosemu. It is however enabled in wine, or
> at least it was when I ported the VxD code from there. So you
> may want to ask wine devs if they still use sgdt and vm86.
> In dosemu, if we ever enable win32s support, we won't rely
> on sgdt. In fact, when some prot mode program under dosemu
> uses GDT selectors, in a fault handler we replace them with
> LDT selectors.

Actually, the SLDT instruction is also impacted by this feature. This
feature, will cause a GP fault if the instructions SGDT, SLDT, SIDT,
SMSW or STR are executed with CPL > 0. Would this be a problem for
dosemu? The proposal now is to trap this GPU fault and give fake value
for these tables.
> 
> >   dosemu includes an i386
> > emulator that in some cases uses the actual instructions of the host
> > system.
> In dosemu2 code, the places you've found, now contain this:
> error("SGDT not implemented\n");
> If we ever support SGDT, we'll use some emulation/fake values.
> 
> So overall, dosemu is not going to willingly use sgdt in any
> near future. But the programs running under vm86 or in prot mode
> may do so. This is very uncommon though, especially under dosemu,
> because it supports only a "polite" programs - those that work
> under win95's dos prompt. No one would get sufficiently hurt if
> sgdt under vm86 will somehow change from its current behaviour.

This is good news. This means that we could go ahead and give a fake
pointer to the GDT and the other impacted tables?
> 
> You can ask wine people for their sgdt use in win32s subsystem.

Will do.

Thanks and BR,
Ricardo