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Date:   Mon, 5 Dec 2016 12:30:31 +0900
From:   Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@...ionext.com>
To:     Dinh Nguyen <dinh.linux@...il.com>
Cc:     Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@...il.com>, Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>,
        "linux-mtd@...ts.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@...ts.infradead.org>,
        "devicetree@...r.kernel.org" <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@...e-electrons.com>,
        Brian Norris <computersforpeace@...il.com>,
        Richard Weinberger <richard@....at>,
        David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
        Cyrille Pitchen <cyrille.pitchen@...el.com>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        Dinh Nguyen <dinguyen@...era.com>,
        Alan Tull <atull@...nsource.altera.com>,
        Chin Liang See <clsee@...era.com>,
        Dinh Nguyen <dinguyen@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 39/39] mtd: nand: denali_dt: add compatible strings for
 UniPhier SoC variants

Hi Dinh,


2016-12-04 7:08 GMT+09:00 Dinh Nguyen <dinh.linux@...il.com>:
> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 8:49 PM, Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@...il.com> wrote:
>> On 12/03/2016 03:41 AM, Masahiro Yamada wrote:
>>> Hi Rob,
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>>> 2016-12-03 1:26 GMT+09:00 Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> (Plan A)
>>>>>   "denali,socfpga-nand"           (for Altera SOCFPGA variant)
>>>>>   "denali,uniphier-nand-v1"       (for old Socionext UniPhier family variant)
>>>>>   "denali,uniphier-nand-v2"       (for new Socionext UniPhier family variant)
>>>>>
>>>>> (Plan B)
>>>>>   "altera,denali-nand"            (for Altera SOCFPGA variant)
>>>>>   "socionext,denali-nand-v5a"     (for old Socionext UniPhier family variant)
>>>>>   "socionext,denali-nand-v5b"     (for new Socionext UniPhier family variant)
>>>
>>>> Let the Altera folks worry about their stuff. At least for soft IP in
>>>> FPGA, it's a bit of a special case. The old string can remain as bad
>>>> as it is.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hmm, I am not sure if this IP would fit in FPGA
>>> (to use it along with NIOS-II?)
>>>
>>> (even if it happened, nothing of this IP would be customizable on users' side.
>>> When buying the IP, SoC vendors submit a list of desired features.
>>> Denali (now Cadence) generates the RTL according to the configuration sheet.
>>> The function is fixed at this point. So, generic compatible would be
>>> useless anyway.)
>>>
>>>
>>> If we are talking about SOCFPGA,
>>> SOCFPGA is not only FPGA. Rather "SOC" + "FPGA".
>>> It consists of two parts:
>>> [1] SOC part  (Cortex-A9 + various hard-wired peripherals such UART,
>>> USB, SD, NAND, ...)
>>> [2] FPGA part (User design logic)
>>>
>>> The Denali NAND controller is included in [1].
>>> So, as far as we talk about the Denali on SOCFPGA,
>>> it is as hard-wired as Intel, Socionext's ones.
>>
>> That's correct, the Denali NAND IP in altera socfpga is a hardware
>> block. You can make it available to the fabric too, but by default
>> it's used by the ARM part of the chip, so for this discussion, you
>> can forget that the FPGA part exists altogether.
>>
>> I would be in favor of plan B, since it seems to be the more often
>> taken approach. A nice example is ci-hdrc:
>>
>> $ git grep compatible drivers/usb/chipidea/
>>
>>>> I simply would do "socionext,uniphier-v5b-nand" (and v5a).
>>>> The fact that it is denali is part of the documentation.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Let me think about this.
>>>
>>> Socionext bought two version of Denali IP,
>>> and we are now re-using the newer one (v5b) for several SoCs.
>>> Socionext has some more product lines other than Uniphier SoC family,
>>> perhaps wider re-use might happen in the future.
>>>
>>> At first, I included "uniphier" in compatible, but I am still wondering
>>> if such a specific string is good or not.
>>>
>>> Also, comments from Altera engineers are appreciated.
>
> Sorry, it's taken me a while to add comments. My altera email is very spotty now
> that the Intel merge is completed. Please use dinguyen@...nel.org for any future
> communications.
>
> Yes, everything that is said so far for the NAND controller on the
> SoCFPGA is correct. I added the binding for the controller a while
> back, but unfortunately, we never added the NAND interface to the
> devkit, so we did not do much in terms of enabling it.
>
> I think the only SoCFPGA board I know that has the NAND interface active is
> the TRCom board, but I have never seen that board.
>
> I don't have any strong opinions on this matter, just as long as the
> original binding
> "denali,denali-nand-dt" is kept, and I think Rob was ok with keeping
> that binding.
>

I am proposing to add "altera,denali-nand" for Altera.
For what, do you need the generic compatible?
This IP has no default for it to fallback to.


-- 
Best Regards
Masahiro Yamada

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