linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] printk: Remove no longer used second struct cont

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Date:   Thu, 15 Dec 2016 18:30:46 -0800
From:   Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>
To:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        git <git@...r.kernel.org>, Junio C Hamano <gitster@...ox.com>
Cc:     Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@...il.com>,
        Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com>,
        Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>,
        Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] printk: Remove no longer used second struct cont

On Thu, 2016-12-15 at 18:10 -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 5:57 PM, Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > In fact, I thought we already upped the check-patch limit to 100?
> > 
> > Nope, CodingStyle neither.
> > 
> > Last time I tried was awhile ago.
> 
> Ok, it must have been just talked about, and with the exceptions for
> strings etc I may not have seen as many of the really annoying line
> breaks lately.
> 
> I don't mind a 80-column "soft limit" per se: if some code
> consistently goes over 80 columns, there really is something seriously
> wrong there. So 80 columns may well be the right limit for that kind
> of check (or even less).

Newspaper column widths were relatively small for a good reason.

I think most of the uses of simple statements should be on a single
line.  I'd rather see just a few arguments on a single line than a
dozen though.  Especially those with long identifiers, functions
with many arguments are just difficult to visually scan.

> But if we have just a couple of lines that are longer (in a file that
> is 3k+ lines), I'd rather not break those.
> 
> I tend use "git grep" a lot, and it's much easier to see function
> argument use if it's all on one line.
> 
> Of course, some function calls really are *so* long that they have to
> be broken up, but that's where the "if it's a couple of lines that go
> a bit over the 80 column limit..." exception basically comes in.
> 
> Put another way: long lines definitely aren't good. But breaking long
> lines has some downsides too, so there should be a balance between the
> two, rather than some black-and-white limit.
> 
> In fact, we've seldom had cases where black-and-white limits work well.

One thing that _would_ be useful is some enhancement to git grep
that would look for multi-line statements more easily.

The git grep -P option doesn't span lines.

grep 2.5.4 was the last version that supported the -P option to
grep through for multiple lines.

It'd be nice to have something like
	git grep --code_style=c90 --function <foo>

that'd show all multiple line uses/definitions/declarations of a
particular function.

I played with extending git grep a bit once, mostly to get the \s
mechanism to span lines.  It kinda worked.

Still, it seems like real work to implement well.