linux-kernel - Re: [RFC 0/8] Copy Offload with Peer-to-Peer PCI Memory

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Date:   Fri, 14 Apr 2017 21:39:52 +1000
From:   Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@....ibm.com>
To:     Logan Gunthorpe <logang@...tatee.com>,
        Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@...idianresearch.com>,
        Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@...nel.org>
Cc:     Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>, Sagi Grimberg <sagi@...mberg.me>,
        "James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@...cle.com>,
        Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>,
        Steve Wise <swise@...ngridcomputing.com>,
        Stephen Bates <sbates@...thlin.com>,
        Max Gurtovoy <maxg@...lanox.com>,
        Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>,
        Keith Busch <keith.busch@...el.com>, linux-pci@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org, linux-nvme@...ts.infradead.org,
        linux-rdma@...r.kernel.org, linux-nvdimm@...1.01.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Jerome Glisse <jglisse@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/8] Copy Offload with Peer-to-Peer PCI Memory

On Fri, 2017-04-14 at 21:37 +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Thu, 2017-04-13 at 22:40 -0600, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
> > 
> > On 13/04/17 10:16 PM, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> > > I'd suggest just detecting if there is any translation in bus
> > > addresses anywhere and just hard disabling P2P on such systems.
> > 
> > That's a fantastic suggestion. It simplifies things significantly.
> > Unless there are any significant objections I think I will plan on
> > doing
> > that.
> 
> I object.

Note: It would also make your stuff fundamentally incompatible with
KVM guest pass-through since KVM plays with remapping BARs all over
the place.

Ben.

> > > On modern hardware with 64 bit BARs there is very little reason
> > > to
> > > have translation, so I think this is a legacy feature.
> > 
> > Yes, p2pmem users are likely to be designing systems around it (ie
> > JBOFs) and not trying to shoehorn it onto legacy architectures.
> > 
> > At the very least, it makes sense to leave it out and if someone
> > comes
> > along who cares they can put in the effort to support the address
> > translation.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Logan