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Message-ID: <20170519150722.GB23227@b29396-OptiPlex-7040>
Date:   Fri, 19 May 2017 23:07:22 +0800
From:   Dong Aisheng <dongas86@...il.com>
To:     Nikita Yushchenko <nikita.yoush@...entembedded.com>
Cc:     "A.S. Dong" <aisheng.dong@....com>,
        "linux-serial@...r.kernel.org" <linux-serial@...r.kernel.org>,
        Andy Duan <fugang.duan@....com>,
        "gregkh@...uxfoundation.org" <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        "Y.B. Lu" <yangbo.lu@....com>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "stefan@...er.ch" <stefan@...er.ch>,
        Mingkai Hu <mingkai.hu@....com>,
        "jslaby@...e.com" <jslaby@...e.com>,
        "linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
        <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [V2, 2/6] tty: serial: lpuart: add little endian 32 bit register
 support

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 11:04:04AM +0300, Nikita Yushchenko wrote:
> Hi
> 
> My view of your statement is:
> - you currently assume only a few cases for this driver - builtin UART
> in vf610, ls1012a and imx7,
> - in each of these cases, all lpuart instances share same endian, thus
> having that in global var works for these cases,
> - having that in global var makes it possible for you to write less
> lines of code
> 
> My complain is:
> - in Linux, we are trying to keep drivers generic,
> - in Linux, having less lines of code has never been sufficient to break
> basic data structure consistency,
> - having driver to keep per-device capability in global var is a clear
> case of breaking consistency.
> 

Yes, i do understand your concern and i absolutely agree with the rule
you mentioned.

> 
> >>> That's for special case, normally we wouldn't do that.
> >>
> >> For me this "special case" looks like "let's break data structure
> >> consistency to reuse several lines of code".
> >>
> >> With code snippets you show, it looks even worse: you assign same global
> >> variable in several places for different uses. 
> > 
> > If you mean lpuart_is_be, it's not for different uses.
> > The purpose is the same to align the correct endian but in two places.
> 
> _probe() routine called for device X alters state already in use for
> device Y.
> 

Okay, you're saying two different types of devices appeared in one SoC.

> > 
> >> implicitly assuming that
> >> it is for same device. Which can be true in your current system, but not
> >> elsewhere (e.g. why not having lpuart programmed into fpga)?
> >>
> > 
> > Sorry, What issues for fpga?
> 
> Connect FPGA to IMX7 based system and program LS1012a version of lpuart
> core into it.  Have your console on system UART broken at time when
> driver gets registered.
> 

Well, theoretically it may happen.

> 
> > 
> >> Alternative solution could be - have separate write path for earlycon.
> > 
> > It looks to me having the same issue with a separate write patch
> > for earlycon as we still need distinguish Little or Big endian
> > for Layerscape and IMX.
> > 
> >> At a glance, it is dozen lines of code.
> > 
> > Would you please show some sample code?
> 
> Do not reuse lpuart32_console_putchar() in earlycon code.
> 
> Have two sets of early_setup/early_write/putchar - for BE and
> defaut-endian earlycon. And in these putchar's do not use
> lpuart_(read|write).
> 

Isn't that introducing another consistency break after fix one
consistency break?

If doing that, we then have two register read/write APIs.
One for normal driver operation by dynamically checking lpuart_is_be
property to distinguish the endian difference problem.
Another is specifically implemented for only early console read/write
and use hardcoded way to read/write register directly instead of using
the standard API lpuart32_read/write, like follows:
e.g.
lpuart32_le_console_write() {
	 writel();
}

lpuart32_be_console_write() {
	 iowrite32be()
}
This also makes the driver a bit strange and ugly.

It looks to me both way are trade offs and the later one seems sacrifice
more. And i doubt if it's really necessary for probably a no real gain
purpose as the FPGA you mentioned is a theoretical case and less
possibility to exist.

I'm still wondering how about keep using the exist way and adding more
information in code to explain why use a global var?

Regards
Dong Aisheng

> 
> As far as I can see, fsl_lpuart.c already has two drivers in one -
> there is separate set of routines for 8bit and 32bit cases.
> And those routines that are common, have if blocks that separate cases.
> I think these drivers will be cleaner if separated.
> However that's completely different story.

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