linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 2/4] swait: add the missing killable swaits

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Date:   Thu, 29 Jun 2017 11:33:39 -0700
From:   Davidlohr Bueso <dave@...olabs.net>
To:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] swait: add the missing killable swaits

On Thu, 29 Jun 2017, Linus Torvalds wrote:

>So without some very compelling reason, I'd not want to add yet
>another wait-queue.

Yes, I was expecting this and very much agree.

I'll actually take a look at wake_q for wake_up_all() and co. to see if
we can reduce the spinlock hold times. Of course it would only make sense
for more than a one wakeup.

>I actually think swait is pure garbage. Most users only wake up one
>process anyway, and using swait for that is stupid. If you only wake
>up one, you might as well just have a single process pointer, not a
>wait list at all, and then use "wake_up_process()".

But you still need the notion of a queue, even if you wake one task
at a time... I'm probably missing your point here.

>There is *one* single user of swake_up_all(), and that one looks like
>bogus crap also: it does it outside of the spinlock that could have
>been used to protect the queue - p,lus I'm not sure there's really a
>queue anyway, since I think it's just the grace-period kthread that is
>there.

So those cases when there's only one waiter I completely agree should
not be using waitqueues. pcpu-rwsems in the past suffered from this.

Thanks,
Davidlohr