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Date:   Thu, 29 Jun 2017 22:30:41 +0200
From:   "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>
To:     Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@...aro.org>
Cc:     Rafael Wysocki <rjw@...ysocki.net>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Linux PM <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
        Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@...aro.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Steve Muckle <smuckle.linux@...il.com>,
        Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@....com>,
        Morten Rasmussen <Morten.Rasmussen@....com>,
        Patrick Bellasi <patrick.bellasi@....com>,
        eas-dev@...ts.linaro.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 0/4] sched: cpufreq: Allow remote callbacks

Hi,

On Thu, Jun 29, 2017 at 7:26 AM, Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@...aro.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Here is the second version of this series. The first [1] version was
> sent several months back.
>
> With Android UI and benchmarks the latency of cpufreq response to
> certain scheduling events can become very critical. Currently, callbacks
> into schedutil are only made from the scheduler if the target CPU of the
> event is the same as the current CPU. This means there are certain
> situations where a target CPU may not run schedutil for some time.
>
> One testcase to show this behavior is where a task starts running on
> CPU0, then a new task is also spawned on CPU0 by a task on CPU1. If the
> system is configured such that new tasks should receive maximum demand
> initially, this should result in CPU0 increasing frequency immediately.
> Because of the above mentioned limitation though this does not occur.
> This is verified using ftrace with the sample [2] application.
>
> Maybe the ideal solution is to always allow remote callbacks but that
> has its own challenges:
>
> o There is no protection required for single CPU per policy case today,
>   and adding any kind of locking there, to supply remote callbacks,
>   isn't really a good idea.
>
> o If is local CPU isn't part of the same cpufreq policy as the target
>   CPU, then we wouldn't be able to do fast switching at all and have to
>   use some kind of bottom half to schedule work on the target CPU to do
>   real switching. That may be overkill as well.
>
>
> Taking above challenges into consideration, this version proposes a much
> simpler diff as compared to the first version.
>
> This series only allows remote callbacks for target CPUs that share the
> cpufreq policy with the local CPU. Locking is mostly in place everywhere
> and we wouldn't be required to change a lot of things.
>
> This series is tested with couple of usecases (Android: hackbench,
> recentfling, galleryfling, vellamo, Ubuntu: hackbench) on ARM hikey
> board (64 bit octa-core, single policy). Only galleryfling showed minor
> improvements, while others didn't had much deviation.
>
> The reason being that this patchset only targets a corner case, where
> following are required to be true to improve performance and that
> doesn't happen too often with these tests:
>
> - Task is migrated to another CPU.
> - The task has maximum demand initially, and should take the CPU to
>   higher OPPs.
> - And the target CPU doesn't call into schedutil until the next tick.
>
>
> V1->V2:
> - Don't support remote callbacks for unshared cpufreq policies.
> - Don't support remote callbacks where local CPU isn't part of the
>   target CPU's cpufreq policy.
> - Dropped dvfs_possible_from_any_cpu flag.

There is no way I could consider this for inclusion into 4.13, so I'm
not sure why you chose this specific timing.

Thanks,
Rafael

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