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Date:   Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:06:36 +0300
From:   "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@...temov.name>
To:     Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Cc:     "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>, x86@...nel.org,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
        Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@...nvz.org>,
        Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@...il.com>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/mm: Do not allow non-MAP_FIXED mapping across
 DEFAULT_MAP_WINDOW border

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 10:17:30PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Nov 2017, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 05:57:03PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > > On Mon, 13 Nov 2017, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 04:43:26PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, 7 Nov 2017, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > In case of 5-level paging, we don't put any mapping above 47-bit, unless
> > > > > > userspace explicitly asked for it.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Userspace can ask for allocation from full address space by specifying
> > > > > > hint address above 47-bit.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Nicholas noticed that current implementation violates this interface:
> > > > > > we can get vma partly in high addresses if we ask for a mapping at very
> > > > > > end of 47-bit address space.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Let's make sure that, when consider hint address for non-MAP_FIXED
> > > > > > mapping, start and end of resulting vma are on the same side of 47-bit
> > > > > > border.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What happens for mappings with MAP_FIXED which cross the border?
> > > > 
> > > > It will succeed with 5-level paging.
> > > 
> > > And why is this allowed?
> > > 
> > > > It should be safe as with 4-level paging such request would fail and it's
> > > > reasonable to expect that userspace is not relying on the failure to
> > > > function properly.
> > > 
> > > Huch?
> > > 
> > > The first rule when looking at user space is that is broken or
> > > hostile. Reasonable and user space are mutually exclusive.
> > 
> > That's basically the same assumption we made to implement current
> > interface of allocation memory above 47-bits.
> > 
> > The premise is that nobody in right mind would try mmap(addr, MAP_FIXED)
> > where addr >= (1UL << 47) as it will always fail. So we can allow this to
> > succeed on 5-level paging machine as a way to allocate from larger address
> > space.
> > 
> > By the same logic we can allow allocation for cases where addr is below
> > (1UL << 47), but addr+size is above the limit.
> 
> Makes some sense, but it would be nice to have this documented exactly in
> arch_get_unmapped_area_topdown(), i.e. the function where you are adding
> the border check to. Otherwise 3 month from now somebody will look at that
> and ask exactly the same question again.

Okay, I'll update the patch.

-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov

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