linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 2/2] mmap.2: MAP

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Date:   Thu, 21 Dec 2017 23:38:37 +1100
From:   Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>
To:     Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        "Michael Kerrisk \(man-pages\)" <mtk.manpages@...il.com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:     Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@...e.cz>, Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>,
        Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>,
        Linux API <linux-api@...r.kernel.org>,
        Khalid Aziz <khalid.aziz@...cle.com>,
        Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@...linux.org.uk>,
        Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>,
        Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-arch <linux-arch@...r.kernel.org>,
        Florian Weimer <fweimer@...hat.com>,
        John Hubbard <jhubbard@...dia.com>,
        Matthew Wilcox <willy@...radead.org>,
        Jann Horn <jannh@...gle.com>,
        Mike Rapoport <rppt@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mmap.2: MAP_FIXED updated documentation

Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org> writes:

> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
> <mtk.manpages@...il.com> wrote:
>> Hello Kees,
>>
>> I'm late to the party, and only just caught up with the fuss :-).
>
> No worries!
>
>> On 12/14/2017 12:19 AM, Kees Cook wrote:
>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 6:40 AM, Cyril Hrubis <chrubis@...e.cz> wrote:
>>>> Hi!
>>>>> You selected stupid name for a flag. Everyone and their dog agrees
>>>>> with that. There's even consensus on better name (and everyone agrees
>>>>> it is better than .._SAFE). Of course, we could have debate if it is
>>>>> NOREPLACE or NOREMOVE or ... and that would be bikeshed. This was just
>>>>> poor naming on your part.
>>>>
>>>> Well while everybody agrees that the name is so bad that basically
>>>> anything else would be better, there does not seem to be consensus on
>>>> which one to pick. I do understand that this frustrating and fruitless.
>>>
>>> Based on the earlier threads where I tried to end the bikeshedding, it
>>> seemed like MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE was the least bad option.
>>>
>>>> So what do we do now, roll a dice to choose new name?
>>>>
>>>> Or do we ask BFDL[1] to choose the name?
>>>
>>> I'd like to hear feedback from Michael Kerrisk, as he's had to deal
>>> with these kinds of choices in the past. I'm fine to ask Linus too. I
>>> just want to get past the name since the feature is quite valuable.
>>>
>>> And if Michal doesn't want to touch this patch any more, I'm happy to
>>> do the search/replace/resend. :P
>>
>> Something with the prefix MAP_FIXED_ seems to me obviously desirable,
>> both to suggest that the function is similar, and also for easy
>> grepping of the source code to look for instances of both.
>> MAP_FIXED_SAFE didn't really bother me as a name, but
>> MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE (or MAP_FIXED_NOCLOBBER) seem slightly more
>> descriptive of what the flag actually does, so a little better.
>
> Great, thanks!
>
> Andrew, can you s/MAP_FIXED_SAFE/MAP_FIXED_NOREPLACE/g in the series?

This seems to have not happened. Presumably Andrew just missed the mail
in the flood. And will probably miss this one too ... :)

cheers