linux-kernel - tmpfs and brickability (size=50% default considered naieve).

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date:   Sat, 10 Feb 2018 19:53:38 -0600
From:   Rob Landley <rob@...dley.net>
To:     linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: tmpfs and brickability (size=50% default considered naieve).

If you have two default tmpfs instances on your box (hi buildroot!) and
they're world writeable and a normal user goes "cat /dev/zero >
/run/fillit; cat /dev/zero > /tmp/fillit" the system then goes "sh:
can't fork" trying to call rm on those files, because they each default
to 50% of total system memory, no matter how many instances there are.
It only stops writing when memory allocation fails in the kernel.

I'm not quite sure how to fix that. I want to say "change the default to
be 50% of what's _left_" (and if you size= manually you get to keep the
pieces) but define "what's left"? Other things are using some memory
already, the 50% _was_ the amount it's safe for tmpfs to use. (Once upon
a time the logic was that 50% of memory can go to disk cache. I think
that's gotten a bit more complicated since then? No idea what the
current rules are.)

This is related to the guy who wanted initramfs to be ramfs instead of
tmpfs because he had a cpio.gz that extracted to >50% of system memory
so it extracted fine with ramfs but hit the limit and failed with tmpfs.
That sounds like a tmpfs rootfs (I.E. initmpfs) should start with a
limit of 90% and then scale it _down_ to 50% after extracting the cpio.
(I wonder what happens if you -o remount the size= limit to smaller than
the filesystem currently holds? Hmmm...)

Rob

P.S. Yes I need to pipe rootflags= through so you can specify the size
on the command line. I've got 3 or 4 initramfs/tmpfs plates spinning and
haven't had a chance to work on them all merge window. I'll try to get
some patches ready by next weekend, if they miss the release they miss
the release...