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Date:   Fri, 23 Mar 2018 16:04:41 -0400
From:   Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
To:     Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:     linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Abderrahmane Benbachir <abderrahmane.benbachir@...ymtl.ca>,
        Américo Wang <xiyou.wangcong@...il.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] [RFC] init, tracing: Add initcall trace events

On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 12:50:16 -0700
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:

> On Fri, 23 Mar 2018 11:02:41 -0400 Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org> wrote:
> 
> > A while ago we had a boot tracer. But it was eventually removed:
> >  commit 30dbb20e68e6f ("tracing: Remove boot tracer").
> > 
> > The rational was because there is already a initcall_debug boot option
> > that causes printk()s of all the initcall functions.  
> 
> "rationale" :)

I hate English.

> 
> > The problem with the initcall_debug option is that printk() is awfully slow,
> > and makes it difficult to see the real impact of initcalls. Mainly because
> > a single printk() is usually slower than most initcall functions.  
> 
> Not understanding this.  We do it correctly:
> 
> 	calltime = ktime_get();
> 	ret = fn();
> 	rettime = ktime_get();
> 
> so the displayed initcall timing is independent of the printk()
> execution time?
> 

It's not just the timing, it's the fact that init_debug printks disrupts
the boot process, where as tracing is less invasive to the
general runtime.

I would even argue that we remove the printks and use the trace events
instead. There's already an option to make trace events be sent to
printk(). I could have initcall_debug enable the trace events and send
them to printk.

-- Steve

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