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Date:   Thu, 12 Apr 2018 14:51:00 +0100
From:   Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>
To:     Christian König <christian.koenig@....com>,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>
Cc:     Sinan Kaya <okaya@...eaurora.org>, amd-gfx@...ts.freedesktop.org,
        timur@...eaurora.org, sulrich@...eaurora.org,
        Tom St Denis <tom.stdenis@....com>,
        "David (ChunMing) Zhou" <David1.Zhou@....com>,
        Emily Deng <Emily.Deng@....com>,
        David Airlie <airlied@...ux.ie>, linux-arm-msm@...r.kernel.org,
        Felix Kuehling <Felix.Kuehling@....com>,
        open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "open list:DRM DRIVERS" <dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
        David Panariti <David.Panariti@....com>,
        Jim Qu <Jim.Qu@....com>, Huang Rui <ray.huang@....com>,
        Roger He <Hongbo.He@....com>, Monk Liu <Monk.Liu@....com>,
        Feifei Xu <Feifei.Xu@....com>,
        Alex Deucher <alexander.deucher@....com>,
        linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
        iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] drm/amdgpu: limit DMA size to PAGE_SIZE for
 scatter-gather buffers

On 12/04/18 10:42, Christian König wrote:
> Am 12.04.2018 um 08:26 schrieb Christoph Hellwig:
>> On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 01:03:59PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
>>> On 10/04/18 21:59, Sinan Kaya wrote:
>>>> Code is expecing to observe the same number of buffers returned from
>>>> dma_map_sg() function compared to sg_alloc_table_from_pages(). This
>>>> doesn't hold true universally especially for systems with IOMMU.
>>> So why not fix said code? It's clearly not a real hardware 
>>> limitation, and
>>> the map_sg() APIs have potentially returned fewer than nents since 
>>> forever,
>>> so there's really no excuse.
>> Yes, relying on dma_map_sg returning the same number of entries as passed
>> it is completely bogus.
> 
> I agree that the common DRM functions should be able to deal with both, 
> but we should let the driver side decide if it wants multiple addresses 
> combined or not.
> 
>>
>>>> IOMMU driver tries to combine buffers into a single DMA address as much
>>>> as it can. The right thing is to tell the DMA layer how much combining
>>>> IOMMU can do.
>>> Disagree; this is a dodgy hack, since you'll now end up passing
>>> scatterlists into dma_map_sg() which already violate max_seg_size to 
>>> begin
>>> with, and I think a conscientious DMA API implementation would be at 
>>> rights
>>> to fail the mapping for that reason (I know arm64 happens not to, but 
>>> that
>>> was a deliberate design decision to make my life easier at the time).
>> Agreed.
> 
> Sounds like my understanding of max_seg_size is incorrect, what exactly 
> should that describe?

The segment size and boundary mask are there to represent a device's 
hardware scatter-gather capabilities - a lot of things have limits on 
the size and alignment of the data pointed to by a single descriptor 
(e.g. an xHCI TRB, where the data buffer must not cross a 64KB boundary) 
- although they can also be relevant to non-scatter-gather devices if 
they just have limits on how big/aligned a single DMA transfer can be.

Robin.

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