linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH AUTOSEL for 4.14 015/161] printk: Add console owner and waiter logic to load balance console writes

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Date:   Mon, 16 Apr 2018 19:00:10 +0200
From:   Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:     Sasha Levin <Alexander.Levin@...rosoft.com>
Cc:     Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com>,
        "stable@...r.kernel.org" <stable@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "akpm@...ux-foundation.org" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        "linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@...il.com>,
        Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@...el.com>,
        Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
        Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>,
        Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>, Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>,
        Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>,
        Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@...ove.sakura.ne.jp>,
        Byungchul Park <byungchul.park@....com>,
        Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH AUTOSEL for 4.14 015/161] printk: Add console owner and
 waiter logic to load balance console writes

Hi!

> >> Let me ask my wife (who is happy using Linux as a regular desktop user)
> >> how comfortable she would be with triaging kernel bugs...
> >
> >That's really up to the distribution, not the main kernel stable. Does
> >she download and compile the kernels herself? Does she use LEDs?
> >
> >The point is, stable is to keep what was working continued working.
> >If we don't care about introducing a regression, and just want to keep
> >regressions the same as mainline, why not just go to mainline? That way
> >you can also get the new features? Mainline already has the mantra to
> >not break user space. When I work on new features, I sometimes stumble
> >on bugs with the current features. And some of those fixes require a
> >rewrite. It was "good enough" before, but every so often could cause a
> >bug that the new feature would trigger more often. Do we back port that
> >rewrite? Do we backport fixes to old code that are more likely to be
> >triggered by new features?
> >
> >Ideally, we should be working on getting to no regressions to stable.
> 
> This is exactly what we're doing.
> 
> If a fix for a bug in -stable introduces a different regression,
> should we take it or not?

If a fix for bug introduces regression, would you call it "obviously
correct"?

									Pavel

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