linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 09/10] perf/cputime: Don't stop idle tick if there's live cputime event

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Date:   Thu, 7 Jun 2018 09:01:30 -0700
From:   Stephane Eranian <eranian@...gle.com>
To:     Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>
Cc:     Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...nel.org>,
        Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...nel.org>,
        David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>,
        Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
        Milian Wolff <milian.wolff@...b.com>, frederic@...nel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/10] perf/cputime: Don't stop idle tick if there's live
 cputime event

Hi Jiri,

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 8:45 AM Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jun 07, 2018 at 12:15:12AM +0200, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> > Disable stopping of the idle tick when having live cputime
> > event. When the tick is disabled, the idle counts are out
> > of date until next tick/update and perf cputime PMU provides
> > misleading counts.
>
> I really don't like this. This can totally change performance
> (e.g. less Turbo due to less idle) and performance tools shouldn't
> change the performance profile drastically.
>
You do not want to change the behavior of the kernel just because you
are monitoring.
This may introduce side effects on other events which may not otherwise exist.